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约翰·C·伯格在美国众议院资本市场、保险及政府资助企业小组委员会上的开场陈述
华盛顿特区
2003 年 3 月 12 日
“共同基金行业实践及其对个人投资者的影响”
早上好,贝克主席。感谢您邀请我在小组委员会上发言。我希望我在共同基金行业中的经验,能对诸位审议当前议题有所帮助。我在这个行业的职业生涯跨越超过 53 年,最近一段是作为先锋投资集团(The Vanguard Group of Investment Companies)的创始人兼首席执行官,自 2000 年起则担任其旗下伯格金融市场研究中心(Bogle Financial Markets Research Center)的总裁。虽然我如今已不能再代表先锋集团发言,但我的评论反映了 1974 年先锋集团创立时,我所投入的那些原则与价值观。
Opening Statement of John C. Bogle Before the Subcommittee on Capital Markets, Insurance, and Government Sponsored Enterprises U.S. House of Representatives Washington, DC March 12, 2003 “Mutual Fund Industry Practices and their Effect on Individual Investors” Good morning, Chairman Baker. Thank you for inviting me to speak to the Subcommittee. I hope that my experience in the mutual fund industry will be helpful in considering the issues before you. My career in this business spans more than 53 years, most recently as founder and chief executive of The Vanguard Group of Investment Companies, and since 2000 as president of its Bogle Financial Markets Research Center. While I am no longer in a position to speak for Vanguard, my comments reflect the principles and values which I invested in Vanguard when it was created in 1974.
自创立之日起,先锋集团就一直采用共同制架构运作——我们管理公司由旗下共同基金的股东共同拥有,并以成本价为基础,为他们的利益服务。这种独特的组织形式,加上我们对竭力降低投资者成本的专注,使我们得以成为所在领域成本最低的服务提供商。如今,先锋旗下基金的平均费率为资产规模的 0.26%,相比 1974 年创建时降低了近 65%。(图 1)而同期,普通共同基金的平均费率则为 1.36%,比 1970 年代末高出整整 49%。这一差异有多大影响?我们 1.10% 的成本优势,应用于 5500 亿美元的基金资产,每年可为我们的基金股东节省约 60 亿美元。
Since the day it began, Vanguard has operated under a mutual structure in which our management company is owned by the shareholders of the mutual funds we manage and operated on an at-cost basis in their behalf. Our unique form of organization, combined with our intense focus on minimizing investor costs, has enabled us to emerge as the lowest-cost provider of services in our field. The expenses of the average Vanguard fund today come to just 0.26% of assets, a reduction of nearly 65% since we began in 1974. (Chart 1) The expense ratio of the average mutual fund, on the other hand, was 1.36%, fully 49% higher than in the late 1970s. How much does this difference matter? Our cost advantage of 1.10%, applied to our fund assets of $550 billion, now results in annual savings for our fund shareholders of some $6 billion.
更低的成本带来更高的回报。投资者必须获得、也确实能够获得的,无非是金融市场慷慨给予的回报,减去金融中介成本后的部分。共同基金作为一个整体,其获得的回报必然等于市场回报减去基金自身产生的成本。这种关系在货币市场基金中最为明显。(图 2)过去五年间,成本最低的 10% 的货币基金取得了 4.80% 的总回报,扣除 0.37% 的成本后,净收益率为 4.43%。而成本最高的基金取得了 4.67% 的总回报,扣除了 1.74% 的成本,净收益率仅为 2.93%。结果:仅仅通过持有成本较低的那组基金,投资者的收益就能提高超过 51%。
Lower costs lead to higher returns. For what investors must earn, and do earn, is whatever returns the financial markets are generous enough to provide, minus the costs of financial intermediation. The returns earned by mutual funds as a group inevitably equal the market returns less the costs funds incur. This relationship is most obvious in money market funds. (Chart 2) Over the past five years, 10 percent of money funds with the lowest costs earned a gross return of 4.80%, incurred costs of 0.37%, and provided a net yield of 4.43%. The highest-cost funds earned 4.67%, deducted 1.74%, and provided a net yield of 2.93%. Result: just by owning the lower-cost group, investors could have increased their income by more than 51%.
虽然不那么明显,同样的关系也存在于股票型共同基金中。例如,在截至 2001 年 6 月 30 日的 10 年间,低成本四分位股票型基金的风险调整后年化收益率为 13.8%,比高成本四分位股票型基金的 10.8% 收益率高出整整 3 个百分点(图 3)。这种关系似乎具有普遍性:在晨星九大“风格箱”——大盘成长型基金、小盘价值型基金等——中的每一个类别里都成立,并且惊人地稳定在约 3 个百分点的水平上。
While less obvious, the same relationship prevails in equity mutual funds. Over the ten-years ended June 30, 2001, for example, the risk adjusted annual return for the low-cost quartile of equity funds was 13.8%, three full percentage points above the 10.8% return of the higher-cost quartile. (Chart 3) This relationship appears to be universal, prevailing in each one of the nine Morningstar “style boxes”— large-cap growth funds, small-cap value funds etc.—and with remarkable consistency around the three percentage point level.
长期来看,成本决定投资成败的分水岭。以过去二十年为例,股市年化回报率为 13.1%,而股票型基金的平均回报率仅为 10.0%(图 4)。若投入 1 万美元,投资于股市本身增长至 10.5 万美元,而同额资金投入股票型基金仅增长至 5.7 万美元,几乎只有前者的一半。这 3.1 个百分点的差距,很大程度上源于基金投资者承担的成本。所以没错,成本至关重要。
In the long run costs make the difference between investment success and failure. Over the past two decades, for example, the stock market provided an annual return of 13.1%, compared to the 10.0% return reported by the average equity fund. (Chart 4) For the full period, $10,000 invested in the market itself grew by $105,000, while the same amount invested in the average equity fund grew by just $57,000, barely half as much. That 3.1 percentage point difference is largely a reflection of the costs that fund investors incur. So, yes, costs matter.
尽管投资公司协会(The Investment Company Institute)报告称,股票型基金的所有权成本目前约为每年 1.3%,但这一数字不仅低估了基金费用和销售收费,还忽略了投资组合换手率等其他显性成本。我估计,真正的股票型基金成本至少比投资公司协会的数据高出 100%。(图 5)如果我们以美元而非费用比率来衡量成本,很容易就能找到成本失控的例子。例如,2000 年,为先锋集团(Vanguard)货币市场基金提供投资管理服务的实际成本为 1500 万美元。(图 6)然而,另一家公司的货币市场基金——资产管理规模同样约为 650 亿美元——却为其投资经理支付了令人瞠目的 2.57 亿美元,而提供的服务本质相同。现在,是时候由政府资助开展一项针对共同基金行业的“跟着钱走”经济研究了。
While The Investment Company Institute has reported that the cost of equity fund ownership is now about 1.3% per year, that figure not only understates fund expenses and sale charges, but ignores such obvious costs as portfolio turnover and others. I estimate that true equity fund costs are at least 100% above the ICI figure. (Chart 5) If we look at costs in dollar—rather than expense ratio—terms, it is easy to find examples of costs run amok. For example, in 2000 the actual costs of providing portfolio management services for the Vanguard money market funds came to $15 million. (Chart 6) Yet another firm’s money market funds— with about the same $65 billion asset base—paid their investment manager an astonishing $257 million dollars for performing essentially the same services. It is high time we had a government-sponsored economic study that “follows the money” in the mutual fund industry.
该基金董事批准了如此高昂的费用,说明《1940 年投资公司法》所追求的股东保护机制存在重大缺陷。该法明确规定,“当投资公司按照其投资顾问的利益(而非股东利益)来组织、运营或管理时,投资者的利益将受到不利影响”;或者当投资公司“未能受到充分的独立监督”时,也同样如此。
That such a fee was approved by the fund’s director’s suggests a monumental shortfall in the shareholder protections sought by The Investment Company Act of 1940, which clearly states that, “the interests of investors are adversely affected . . . when investment companies are organized, operated, (or) managed in the interest of (their) . . . investment advisers,” rather than in the interests of their shareholders, or when investment companies are, “not subjected to adequate independent scrutiny.”
基金独立董事实际上只有两项重要职责:找到最优秀的投资经理,以及与该经理协商尽可能最低的费率。然而,他们的记录简直糟透了,因为他们遵循的是一套形同僵尸的流程,让“受托责任”沦为笑柄。能干的、但贪婪的经理们越界了,试图从股东口袋里掏走太多钱,而董事们却从没有制止过。他们在管理费谈判方面也彻底失败了。“独立”董事们在过去 60 多年里表现糟糕透顶。这份控诉不是我写的——我没有胆量把话说得这么重。这些话出自沃伦·巴菲特在最近一份伯克希尔·哈撒韦年报中的原话。
Fund independent directors in actuality have only two important responsibilities: Obtaining the best possible investment manager and negotiating with that manager for the lowest possible fee. Yet their record has been absolutely pathetic, for they follow in a zombie-like process that makes a mockery of stewardship. Able but greedy managers have overreached and tried to dip too deeply into the shareholders’ pockets, and directors haven’t slapped their hands. They have failed as well in negotiating management fees. “Independent” directors, over more than six decades, have failed miserably. I didn’t write that indictment, for I would not have the temerity to express my views so strongly. The words were those of Warren Buffett in the most recent Berkshire Hathaway report.
一个导致董事失职的原因在于,基金的管理公司负责人通常也兼任基金董事会主席。正如巴菲特先生所指出的:“与自己谈判很少能引发一场酒吧斗殴。”因此,我们需要规定基金主席必须由独立董事担任。这会带来改变吗?嗯,自 1974 年先锋集团成立以来,我们的惠灵顿基金支付给外部顾问惠灵顿管理公司的费率已下调六次,去年这只规模达 220 亿美元的基金管理费仅为资产的 0.04%(即四个基点),合 850 万美元。如果没有这些下调,管理费将是 9220 万美元。积极的费率谈判为基金股东节省了近 8500 万美元,这些节省使得该基金的回报率超过了其所在平衡基金类别中超过 90% 的同行。
One reason for the failure of directors is that the head of the firm’s management company is typically the chairman of the fund’s board as well. As Mr. Buffett has observed, “negotiating with oneself seldom produces a barroom brawl.” So we need to require that the fund chairman be an independent director. Would it matter? Well, since Vanguard began in 1974, the fee rates that our Wellington Fund has paid to external adviser Wellington Management Company have been reduced six times, and last year’s management fee on this $22 billion fund was just 0.04% (four basis points) of assets, or $8.5 million. Without these reductions, the fee would have been $92.2 million. Active fee negotiations saved the fund shareholders nearly $85 million, savings that have catapulted the fund’s returns to its owners over fully 90% of its balanced fund peers.
要让投资者意识到低成本的关键重要性,我们需要掌握涵盖基金持有所有成本的信息,这些信息必须在基金的招募说明书和年报中直白地呈现出来,同时还要在每份年度报表中列出每位投资者所承担的美元成本。与此同时,我们需要赋予独立董事权力,让他们能够遵循国家法律的标准,保护基金股东的利益——这些股东是他们理应代表的。
To awaken investors to the critical importance of lower costs, we need information that encompasses all of the costs of fund ownership, presented forthrightly in fund prospectuses and annual reports, and we need to show in each annual statement the dollar costs that each investor incurs. At the same time, we need to empower independent directors to live up to the standards of the law of the land and protect the interests of the fund shareholders they are honor-bound to represent.
这些举措必将推动基金收费下降,并使这个行业在未来更好地服务于投资者。谢谢各位。
These steps will surely drive fund fees down, and will enable this industry to serve investors far more effectively in the years ahead. Thank you.
注:本演讲所表达的观点不一定代表先锋集团现任管理层的看法。© 2005 约翰·C·博格尔版权所有
Note: The opinions expressed in this speech do not necessarily represent the views of Vanguard’s present management. © Copyright 2005 by John C. Bogle