公司投资与派息政策讨论
恭赠:第 26 卷第 4 期 | 2014 年秋季
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应用公司金融期刊
Journal of APPLIED CORPORATE FINANCE
本期话题:美国公司是否存在投资不足?
In This Issue: Are U.S. Companies Underinvesting?
公众公司的现状:与其说是被遮蔽,不如说是一场演变
8 康拉德·S·奇科泰洛,佐治亚州立大学
The State of the Public Corporation: Not So Much an Eclipse as an Evolution 8 Conrad S. Ciccotello, Georgia State University
资本配置圆桌讨论:22 位小组成员——约翰·布里斯科(Bristow)、保罗·克兰西(Biogen Idec)、企业投资与分红政策讨论——迈克尔·莫布森(瑞士信贷)、保罗·希拉尔(潘兴广场资本管理)、斯科特·奥斯特菲尔德(JANA Partners)、唐·邱和约翰·麦科马克(《应用公司金融期刊》)。
Capital Deployment Roundtable: 22 Panelists: John Briscoe, Bristow; Paul Clancy, Biogen Idec; A Discussion of Corporate Investment and Payout Policy Michael Mauboussin, Credit Suisse; Paul Hilal, Pershing Square Capital Management; Scott Ostfeld, JANA Partners; Don Chew and John McCormack, Journal of Applied Corporate Finance.
主持人为 Fortuna Advisors 的格雷格·米兰诺。
Moderated by Greg Milano, Fortuna Advisors.
| 资本配置:证据、分析方法与评估指南 | 48 | 迈克尔·J·莫布森与丹·卡拉汉,瑞信 |
| 弥合利率与投资之间的鸿沟 | 75 | 马克·泽纳、埃文·朱内克与拉姆·奇武库拉,摩根大通 |
| 一位非传统的企业集团家:亨利·辛格尔顿与特利丹公司 | 81 | 小威廉·N·桑代克 |
| 伊坎宣言 | 89 | 托比亚斯·卡莱尔 |
| 偏离轨道:追踪股的消失 | 98 | 特拉维斯·戴维森,俄亥俄大学,与乔尔·哈珀, |
| 俄克拉荷马州立大学 | ||
| 公司估值理论与实践之间的鸿沟: | 106 | 弗兰克·班塞尔,ESCP 欧洲商学院-拉贝斯 ReFi,与 |
Capital Allocation: Evidence, Analytical Methods, and Assessment Guidance 48 Michael J. Mauboussin and Dan Callahan, Credit Suisse Bridging the Gap between Interest Rates and Investments 75 Marc Zenner, Evan Junek, and Ram Chivukula, J.P. Morgan An Unconventional Conglomerateur: Henry Singleton and Teledyne 81 William N. Thorndike, Jr. The Icahn Manifesto 89 Tobias Carlisle Off Track: The Disappearance of Tracking Stocks 98 Travis Davidson, Ohio University, and Joel Harper, Oklahoma State University The Gap between the Theory and Practice of Corporate Valuation: 106 Franck Bancel, ESCP Europe-Labex ReFi, and
欧洲专家调查
曼尼托巴大学,乌莎·R·米图
Survey of European Experts Usha R. Mittoo, University of Manitoba
股息增长的某些模式是否可以预测?重复分红提升的市场效应分析 悉尼科技大学 大卫·米查尤克,拉马尔大学 卡琳·纽豪瑟,悉尼科技大学 斯科特·沃克
Are Certain Dividend Increases Predictable? The Effect of Repeated 118 David Michayluk, University of Technology, Sydney, Dividend Increases on Market Returns Karyn Neuhauser, Lamar University, and Scott Walker, University of Technology, Sydney
资本部署圆桌会——企业投资与分红政策讨论 纽约市 | 2014 年 5 月 28 日 摄影:Yvonne Gunner
Capital Deployment Roundtable A Discussion of Corporate Investment and Payout Policy New York City | May 28, 2014 Photographs by Yvonne Gunner
22《应用公司金融期刊》•第 26 卷第 4 期 2014 年秋季
22 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance • Volume 26 Number 4 Fall 2014
格雷格·米兰诺:下午好,欢迎大家来参加这场关于资本配置的圆桌讨论会。我们很高兴能邀请到这样一组代表广泛观点和经验的嘉宾——其中包括企业财务高管、投资银行家以及积极投资者。我们计划用接下来的一个小时左右,探讨部署资本的整体策略,同时审视将资本重新投资于业务或分配给股东的所有主要替代方案。高管们做出的决策,很可能是决定股票长期表现的关键因素。你可以通过并购和剥离来重塑一家公司,通过资本投资来壮大它,或者通过向股东分发现金来收缩它。事实上,你完全可以改变自己所在的行业——因为你出售资产和筹集资金收购其他公司的能力,赋予了你改变行业的力量和手段。
Greg Milano: Good afternoon, I’d like made by executives may well be the most to welcome you all to this roundtable on important determinant of how well their capital deployment. We’re very pleased share price performs over the long run. to have a panel that represents such a You can reshape a company through range of views and experience—one that acquisitions and divestitures, grow it includes corporate financial executives through capital investment, or shrink it and investment bankers as well as activ- by distributing cash to shareholders. In ist investors. Our plan is to spend the fact, you can completely change what next hour or so talking about the over- industry you’re operating in—because all strategy for deploying capital while your ability to sell assets and raise capital considering all the major alternatives for to buy others gives you the power and the reinvesting capital in the business or dis- means to change it.
但在此之前,先让我说说今天同意加入我们的人们。但在我们进一步讨论之前,让我们先谈谈资本配置的意义——很多人对此有不同看法。不过,让我先告诉你我是怎么想的。
tributing it to shareholders. But before we proceed any farther Many people have different ideas with the discussion, let me say a bit about about what it means to deploy capital. the people who have agreed to join us But let me start by telling you how I today.
想想看。我们在这里要讨论的核心话题是:企业管理者可以用公司通过内部经营产生的现金以及从银行和金融市场外部筹集的资金来做哪些事情。约翰·布里斯科(John Briscoe)最近被任命为布里斯托集团(Bristow)的高级副总裁兼首席财务官,这家总部位于休斯顿的公司是石油天然气运输及搜索救援直升机服务的领先提供商。此前,约翰在威德福国际有限公司(Weatherford International Limited)担任了大约两年的首席财务官。再之前,他在能源行业的多个领域拥有近 30 年的经验,主要集中在油田服务方面,但也涉及其他几个领域,包括一些能源类业主有限合伙(MLP)。管理者可以用这些现金进行资本投资、资助研发、增加营运资本,或者通过收购其他公司、组建合资企业来推动增长。但如果他们的资本超出所需,也可以将其分配给股东——通过股息或回购股票的方式。
think about it. Our basic subject here is John Briscoe was recently named all the things corporate managers can do Senior Vice President and CFO of with the cash their companies generate Bristow, the Houston-based leader in both internally through their operations providing helicopter services for oil and and what they raise from the outside gas transportation and search and rescue. from banks and financial markets. Man- Previously, John was Chief Financial agers can use that cash to make capital Officer of Weatherford International investments, fund research and devel- Limited for about two years. Before opment, increase working capital, or that, he had almost 30 years of experi-they can use the cash to grow by buy- ence in different parts of the energy ing other companies and forming joint industry, mostly in oil field services, but ventures. But if they have more capital several other areas, including a number than they need, they can distribute it to of energy MLPs.
股东通过股息——无论是定期股息、特别一次性股息还是股票回购——获得回报。保罗·克兰西(Paul Clancy)是百健艾迪(Biogen Idec)这家生物制药公司的首席财务官,他已在这家公司工作约 14 年,其中后 7 年担任首席财务官。在此之前,他在百事可乐公司(PepsiCo)工作了约 15 年。迈克尔·莫布森(Michael Mauboussin)是瑞信(Credit Suisse)全球金融策略主管,负责就资本市场理论、估值、公司战略和决策等主题为企业及投资者提供咨询。此前,他是莱格·梅森资本管理公司(Legg Mason Capital Management)的首席投资策略师,在那里他与比尔·米勒(Bill Miller)共同处理过许多问题。当然,公司还有许多其他选择,比如通过偿还债务或积累现金来增强财务灵活性。这正是我们今天下午的主要话题:公司如何做出这些决策——以及它们应该如何做?当然,首席执行官和首席财务官需要处理的事情很多,但我越来越确信,资本部署的选择——
shareholders through dividends, either Paul Clancy is the CFO of Biogen regular or special, one-time dividends, or Idec, a biopharmaceutical company that through buybacks of their stock. And, of Paul has worked with for about 14 years, course, companies also have the option the last seven as CFO. Prior to that he of increasing their financial flexibility by spent about 15 years at PepsiCo. paying down debt or building up cash. Michael Mauboussin is head of Global And so that’s our main topic for this Financial Strategies at Credit Suisse, afternoon: How do companies make where he advises corporations and inves-these decisions—and how should they tors on topics related to capital markets be doing it? theory, valuation, corporate strategy, Of course, there are lots of other and decisions. Before that, he was Chief things CEOs and CFOs need to do, but Investment Strategist at Legg Mason I’ve increasingly come to the conclu- Capital Management, where he worked sion that the capital deployment choices with Bill Miller on lots of issues, includ-
《应用公司金融期刊》第 26 卷第 4 期,投资过程。
Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 ing investment process.
保罗·希拉尔(Paul Hilal)是潘兴广场资本管理公司(Pershing Square Capital Management)的一名合伙人,这家知名的维权对冲基金管理着约 180 亿美元资产。多年来,保罗曾在三家上市公司的董事会中担任股东代表。斯科特·奥斯特菲尔德(Scott Ostfeld)是 JANA 合伙公司(JANA Partners)的合伙人兼联席投资组合经理,这家管理着 100 亿美元资产的价值导向型对冲基金以股东维权活动而闻名。
Paul Hilal is a partner at Pershing Square Capital Management, a well-known activist hedge fund that manages about $18 billion. Paul has served as a shareholder representative on the boards of three public companies over the years. Scott Ostfeld is a partner and co-portfolio manager at JANA Partners, a $10 billion value oriented hedge fund known for its shareholder activism.
唐·邱(Don Chew)担任《应用公司金融期刊》(Journal of Applied Corporate Finance)及其前身期刊的编辑已超过 30 年。
Don Chew has been the editor of the Journal of Applied Corporate Finance and its predecessors for well over 30 years
现在要说到唐·切斯纳特。他是斯腾·斯图尔特公司(Stern Stewart & Co.)的创始合伙人——我后来在这家公司工作了 10 年,也成为了一名合伙人。在唐担任主编期间,《应用公司金融杂志》先后由多家金融机构赞助或拥有,包括英国米兰银行、大陆伊利诺伊银行、美国银行,以及最近的摩根士丹利。一年多前,摩根士丹利将《应用公司金融杂志》卖给了唐、他的副主编约翰·麦科马克,以及卡尔·费伦巴赫——卡尔是私募股权公司伯克希尔合伙公司(Berkshire Partners)的退休联合创始人,现任美国环保协会主席。
now. He was a founding partner of Stern Stewart & Co.—a firm I later joined for 10 years and became a partner of. During Don’s tenure as editor, the JACF has been sponsored or owned by a number of financial institutions, including the Midland Bank of England, Continen-tal Illinois, Bank of America and, most recently, Morgan Stanley. A little over a year ago, Morgan Stanley sold the JACF to Don, his associate editor John McCormack, and Carl Ferenbach, the retired co-founder of the private equity firm Berkshire Partners who now serves as Chairman of the Environmental Defense Fund.
最后但同样重要的是约翰·麦考马克(John McCormack),正如我刚才提到的,他是《应用公司金融期刊》(JACF)的副主编兼共同所有者。在加入唐担任副主编之前,约翰曾在摩根士丹利(Morgan Stanley)担任分析师,专注于会计与价值问题——在此之前,他曾在斯特恩·斯图尔特(Stern Stewart)担任顾问,专门服务于能源行业。
And last but not least is John McCormack , who, as I just mentioned, is associate editor and co-owner of the JACF. Before joining Don as associate editor, John was an analyst at Morgan Stanley who focused on questions of accounting and value—and before that, he worked as a consultant at Stern Stewart specializing in serving the energy industry.
正如我之前告诉过你们的,我是格雷格·米兰诺,福尔图纳顾问公司的首席执行官兼联合创始人,这是一家专注于股东价值的公司。
And as I told you already, I’m Greg Milano , CEO and co-founder of Fortuna Advisors, a shareholder value-focused
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战略咨询公司告诉我,这才是从业务战略、投资组合管理、资本配置到绩效衡量和激励机制等所有方面寻找那些具备创造长期价值秘方的公司的地方。既然保罗是建议我读那本优秀著作的人,我会先问问他对于制定正确资本配置策略的整体流程有何看法。
strategy consulting firm that advises me that’s where to find the special sauce companies on everything from busi- for creating long-run value. And since ness strategy, portfolio management and Paul was the one who suggested that I capital deployment to performance mea- read that excellent book, I will start by surement and incentives. We differentiate asking him for his views on the overall ourselves through the thoroughness of process of coming up with the right capi-the training and coaching we provide to tal deployment strategy.
帮助经理人在上市公司内部更像私人企业主那样思考。保罗·克兰西:格雷格,我同意资本配置与资本部署非常重要,确实能在很大程度上决定一家公司长期的价值创造。但我想补充的是,运营表现、创新、对业务的深刻理解以及出色的战略,所有这些都能让你在资本配置上做得更好——因为它们都为你提供了更多的选择、更多的机会,让你能够以创造未来现金流和价值的方式来运用资本。
help managers think more like private owners inside the public company. Paul Clancy: Greg, I agree that capital So, that’s our cast of characters. And deployment and capital allocation are before I give up the floor, let me also very important and can really determine mention that the idea for this roundtable a large amount of a company’s value cre-started with a book that Paul Clancy first ation over time. But I would add that suggested to me. The book is written by operating performance, innovation, a highly regarded value investor named understanding your business, and having William Thorndike, and it’s called great strategies all allow you to be better The Outsiders: Eight Unconventional at capital allocation—because they all CEOs and Their Radically Rational give you more choices, more opportuni-Blueprint for Success. The book provides ties to use capital in a way that creates accounts of how the CEOs of eight future cash flow and value.
美国公司成功地随着时间的推移为股东创造了非凡的价值。同样重要的是要记住,企业管理者天生具有竞争性。他们总是与竞争对手和同行进行比较——而这种竞争一直是美国企业成功的主要推动因素。但这里有一个需要警惕的地方——它源于这样一个现实:典型的企业记分卡往往具有短期导向。最常用的绩效评估指标往往是某个月份、季度或年度的盈利。但一家公司的价值取决于其长期现金流和运用资本的回报率,而不是当前的盈利。想想亚马逊这样的公司——我在百健(Biogen)工作,这家公司也是如此。在这种情况下,很容易看出以旨在增加长期预期现金流的方式进行资本配置的重要性。
A merica n compa nies ma naged to It’s also important to keep in mind create extraordinary shareholder value that corporate managers are by nature over time. And one of the book’s main competitive. They are always compar-themes is how successful CEOs vary ing themselves to competitors and their strategies in response to major peers— and that kind of competi-changes over time in both the capital tion has been a major contributor to and product markets. They adjusted the success of corporate America. But their strategies in response to changes there is a caution here—one that stems in industry competition and the capital from the reality that the typical corpo-markets. At one point in its history, a rate scorecard usually has a short-term company might have succeeded with orientation. The metrics most com-well-planned and executed acquisitions. monly used for performance evaluation But a few years later, in a very different tend to be earnings in a given month, env ironment, t he sa me compa ny quarter or year. But a company’s value stopped acquiring other businesses and depends on its long-term cash f low used its excess cash mainly to buy back and its return on capital deployed as its own stock. opposed to its current earnings. Think The main lesson of the book, then, about companies like Amazon—and is that the value-maximizing capital it’s also true of Biogen, where I work. deployment decisions depend on not In such cases, it’s easy to see the impor-only the internal operations of the com- tance of allocating capital in ways pany, but also the external environment that are designed to increase the long-in the capital and product markets. To run stream of expected cash f low, or
24 《应用公司金融期刊》第 26 卷第 4 期——我称之为“每股内在价值”。说到每股内在价值,我考虑的价值衡量尺度不仅包括下一季度的盈利和现金流,还包括当前资本配置决策预期的长期影响。每股内在价值应当作为评估所有资本部署形式的视角,包括股息、回购以及收购。
24 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 what I like to call “intrinsic value per share.” And when I say intrinsic value per share, I’m thinking about a measure of value that includes not only the next quarter’s earnings and cash flow, but also the expected long-run effects of today’s decisions to allocate capital. Intrinsic value per share should be the lens that is used to evaluate all forms of capital deployment, including dividends and share repurchase as well as acquisitions.
从这个角度看,资本配置过程必然是一场丰富的对话,既需要实践经验,也离不开研究发现,而这一切发生在一个充满大量未知与不可知预测的世界里。
Viewed in this way, the capital allocation process necessarily involves a rich conversation that draws on practical experience as well as research findings, and it’s taking place in a world with forecasts that involve lots of unknowns and unknowables.
米兰诺:约翰,作为我们的另一位公司代表,你想就此事发表一下看法吗?
Milano: John, as our other corporate representative, do you want to weigh in on this?
约翰·布里斯科:我认为公司需要确保自己真正回归到资本预算或资本配置过程的实质上来。预算流程只是每年机械地走一遍吗?你们主要盯着去年投了什么,然后拿这个当基准线?还是真地试着从一张白纸开始,去问:对于手头可用的现金,什么能产生最佳回报?当公司的现金头寸与其有吸引力的资本支出机会不相匹配时,你们会怎么做?是简单地将资本投资限制在手头可用的现金资源范围内?还是会考虑募集新资金?
John Briscoe: I think companies need to be sure that they’re really getting back to the substance of the capital budgeting or allocation process. Is the budgeting process just something that you go through mechanically each year? Do you look mainly at what was invested last year, and use that as your baseline? Or do you really try to start with a clean slate and ask what will generate the best returns for the cash available? And what does your company do when its cash position is not equal to its attractive capex opportunities? Do you simply limit capital investments to your immediately available cash resources? Or do you consider raising new funds?
尽管将公司投资局限于内部资金的做法,或许并非一种……
Although limiting corporate investment to internal funds may not be a
每股内在价值应当是评估所有资本配置形式(包括股息、股票回购以及收购)时所使用的透镜。
Intrinsic value per share should be the lens that is used to evaluate all forms of capital deployment, including dividends and share repurchase as well as acquisitions.
从这一角度出发,资本配置过程必然需要一场丰富的对话——既要汲取实践经验,也要引用研究成果——而这一切发生在一个充满众多未知与不可知之预测的世界里。
Viewed in this way, the capital allocation process necessarily involves a rich conversation that draws on practical experience as well as research findings, and it’s taking place in a world with forecasts that involve lots of unknowns and unknowables.
保罗·克兰西 很多公司用这种方式来做事情并不好, 约翰刚才说得很对,但我想补充几点。 学习迈克尔·波特的五力模型、颠覆性创新 这也不是最佳的处理方式。它甚至可能不是 首先,除了在瑞士信贷的日常工作之外, 和博弈论;然后你穿过走廊去上金融课时, 创造或最大化股东价值最可靠的办法。 22 年来我一直是哥伦比亚商学院的兼职 你又会讨论有效市场理论和布莱克-斯科尔斯 如果你有一个很棒的项目需要资金支持, 教员。和来自投资界及对冲基金界的两位 期权定价模型。但这两门学科似乎从未 只要你把项目沟通得足够好,资本市场 代表保罗和斯科特一样,我很自豪能 融为一体,尽管它们本该紧密相连。 就会以合理的条件为你提供资金。 参与这个项目。 检验的试金石是
Paul Clancy bad way to approach things for many John just said, but I’d like to add a couple learn about Michael Porter’s five forces companies, it’s not the best way to of things. First, along with my day job at and disruptive innovation and game approach it either. It also may not be Credit Suisse, I’ve served as a member theory; and then when you cross the the most reliable way to create or maxi- of the adjunct faculty of the Columbia hall and take your finance class, you mize shareholder value. If you’ve got a Business School for 22 years. And like talk about efficient markets theory and great project that needs to be funded, Paul and Scott, our two representatives the Black-Scholes option pricing model. the capital markets will be available to from the investing and hedge fund com- But these two disciplines never seem to you on reasonable terms, provided you munities, I’m proud to be associated with come together, even though they should do a good job of communicating your the program. be joined at the hip. The litmus test of
保罗·希拉尔:没错,我是 1992 年毕业的,拿的是法学/工商管理双学位(JD/MBA)。
斯科特·奥斯特费尔德:我是 2002 届的法学/工商管理双学位。
莫布森:商学院通常把战略和金融分设在两个系里教授。所以,在战略课上,你会学到波特的五力模型;在金融课上,你会学到资本配置和估值。而事实上,真正有效的战略就是看它能否创造价值——我也喜欢保罗提到的“每股内在价值”这个说法——不考虑公司战略定位,你根本做不了有意义的估值。因此,如果不了解公司的战略定位及其盈利能力,你就无法做出明智的资本配置和估值决策。
米兰:迈克尔,你在职业生涯中花了大量时间思考资本配置策略并撰文论述。对于刚才听到的这些评论,你怎么看?
prospects. an effective strategy is whether it cre-Paul Hilal: That’s right, I graduated with ates value—and I too like Paul’s term Milano: Michael, you’ve spent a lot a JD/MBA in 1992. “intrinsic value per share”—and you of time during your career thinking can’t do a thoughtful valuation without and writing about capital deployment Scott Ostfeld: And I was in the JD/MBA understanding a company’s strategic strategy. How would respond to the Class of 2002. position comments you’ve just heard? So, you can’t make intelligent capital Mauboussin: Business schools tend to allocation and valuation decisions with-Michael Mauboussin: I agree with pretty teach strategy in one department and out understanding the strategic position much everything that you, Paul, and finance in another. So in strategy, you of your company and the profitability of
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你的行业。这是桑代克那本书要传递的一个重要信息——你能简要给我们预告一下书里的主要发现吗?
your industry. That’s an important mes- you mind giving us a brief preview of the sage of the Thorndike book, of which I main findings?
我也是他的忠实粉丝。作为投资者,你必须活在这些领域的交会点上。
莫布森:我们正在做一个项目,试图估算从 1980 年到 2013 年底,每年公司资本在以下各项活动或交易中的配置总额:(1) 并购;(2) 资本支出;(3) 研发;(4) 股票回购;以及 (5) 股息。我们还研究了资产剥离。然后我们试图将数据与学术研究联系起来,以理解这些不同的资本投资和分配方式随时间变化的优劣。
索恩代克书中传达的另一个重要信息,正如格雷格提到的,是正确的投资和融资策略因时间和环境而异。因此,我认为我们今天讨论的大多数问题的最佳答案都是:“看情况而定。”回购股票是好是坏?正确答案是,这取决于很多变量——取决于你的投资机会、你当前的股价,甚至可能取决于税负偏好。
too am a big fan. As an investor, you have to be living at the intersection of these Mauboussin: We’re working on a project two areas. now where we have tried to estimate, for Another important message of the every year starting with 1980 through Thorndike book, as Greg mentioned, is the end of 2013, the total amount of that the right investment and financing corporate capital allocated to each of strategy varies with time and circum- the following activities or transactions: stances. And for that reason, I think the (1) M&A; (2) CapEx; (3) R&D; (4) best answer to most of the questions we stock buybacks; and (5) dividends. We will be discussing today is: “It depends.” also looked at divestitures. And we Is buying back stock good or bad? The then tried to make sense of the data by right answer is, it depends on a lot of tying it to the findings of academics to variables—on your investment oppor- understand the merits of each of these tunities, on your current stock price, different investments and distributions and maybe even on the tax preferences of capital over time.
各位投资者:收购是好是坏?答案同样取决于公司的优势与能力,以及市场的机遇。我们在评估企业时,发现一个最有趣的结论:2013 年,排名前 1500 的非金融企业平均资本回报率——采用名为现金流投资回报率(CFROI)的指标计算——达到了过去 60 年来的历史最高点。换句话说,如今企业使用资本的效率,即所谓的公司效率,已处于历史纪录水平。但与此同时,过去十年企业资产的增速却低于平均水平,导致现金异常大量积累。事实上,截至 2013 年底,标普 500 指数成分公司整体持有的现金高达 1.7 万亿美元。尽管其中约 1 万亿美元在海外,但这依然是个极为庞大的数字。
最后我想说的是,有时基于短期业绩指标的激励薪酬方案与长期财富创造的总体目标之间存在重大冲突。作为现实世界的实践者,我们必须正视这个问题。
of your investors. Is an acquisition likely One of our most interesting find-to be good or bad? And the answer again ings is that the average corporate return is, it depends on the company’s strengths on invested capital in 2013 for the top and capabilities as well as the opportu- non-financial 1,500 companies—calcu-nities in the markets. When evaluating lated using a measure called Cash Flow companies, the most thoughtful and Return on Investment, or CFROI— sophisticated investors try to understand reached an all-time high for the last how corporate managers think about 60 years. In other words, what might these questions, and how likely they are be described as corporate efficiency in to be thoughtful and judicious as they using capital is today at record levels. allocate the capital. But, at the same time, the growth in The last thing I’ll say here is that corporate assets has been below average there are sometimes major conf licts for the past ten years. As a result, there between incentive compensation plans has been an unusually large accumula-that are based on short-term perfor- tion of cash. In fact, the cash held by the mance metrics and the overall goal of S&P 500 in aggregate was $1.7 trillion long-term wealth creation. As real-world at year-end 2013. While about $1 tril-practitioners, we need to address that lion of that cash is offshore, it is still a issue. very large number.
现在,任何估值模型都会告诉你,价值是增长和资本回报率的函数。尽管高回报率赢得了许多投资者的赞誉,但我们的研究结果却提出了一种可能性:企业可能正在牺牲价值增值——(注:原文至此截断,从上下文看“牺牲价值增值”后应有内容,但需忠实保留原文段落结束点)
Now, as any valuation model will Some Historical Perspective on tell you, value is a function of growth the Corporate Investment Decision as well as return on capita l. A nd Milano: Michael, you’re now working although the high rates of return have on a big research project at Credit Suisse been applauded by many investors, our that looks at corporate investment deci- findings raise the possibility that com-sions over a long period of time. Would panies could be sacrificing value-adding
26 《应用公司金融杂志》第 26 卷第 4 期 通过限制投资同时追求更高回报来实现增长。毕竟,财务管理的目标不是最大化资本回报率,而是最大化净现值。而且,正如我们许多人在商学院所学到的,最大化净现值意味着不仅要接受回报率最高的项目,还要接受所有预期至少能赚回资本成本的项目。
26 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 growth by limiting investment while pushing for ever higher returns. The goal of financial management, after all, is to maximize not returns on capital, but net present values. And as many of us were taught in business school, maximizing NPV means taking not just the highest-return projects, but all projects that are expected to earn at least the cost of capital.
那么,我们的研究如何看待价值与增长之间的关系?多年来,我们考察了股东总回报(TSR)与息税前利润(EBIT)增长之间的关系。直到前不久,这种关系还呈现出负斜率,这意味着增长较快的公司实际上给投资者带来的回报率低于增长较慢的公司。但去年重新审视这项研究时,我们发现这一关系已经转为正斜率。而目前,增长最快的公司恰恰也获得了最高的股东总回报。
So what does our research say about the relationship between value and growth? Over the years, we have exam-ined the relationship between total shareholder returns, or TSRs, and growth in EBIT. Until quite recently, this relationship had a negative slope, which means that higher-growth companies actually produced lower rates of return for their investors than slower-growing companies. But when revisiting the study last year, we found that the relationship had turned positive. And at the moment, the companies that are growing fastest are also getting the highest TSRs.
约翰·麦科马克:迈克,转折点是什么时候?
John McCormack: When was the inflec-tion point, Michael?
莫布辛:大概是在过去四五年,基本上是从金融危机之后。我们研究中的另一个有趣发现是,近年来市场对并购(M&A)反应发生了明显变化。过去对企业并购的学术研究表明,多达 70% 的交易不仅未能为收购方创造价值,反而最终降低了其市场价值。但根据我们对近期研究的梳理,这一比例现已降至 50% 以下。换句话说,现在大多数并购交易似乎能为
Mauboussin: Probably in the last 4 or 5 years, basically since the financial crisis. A nother interesting obser vation from our work is an apparent change in the market’s response to M&A in recent years. Past academic studies of corporate M&A have suggested that as much as 70% of deals not only fail to create value for the acquirer, but actually end up reducing its market value. But according to our survey of more recent work, that ratio has now fallen below 50%. In other words, a majority of deals now appear to create value for
我职业生涯的相当一部分时间都在批评那些过度关注增长、却对回报重视不足的公司。但读完最新的这份报告,我现在陷入了一个奇怪的境地:我可能要开始论证相反的观点了。亚马逊的案例尤其让我感兴趣,因为它正从一个庞大的基数上迅速增长。这给我的启示是,市场可能正在传达一个信息——如今稀有的、让投资者愿意出高价购买的,已不再是高资本回报率,而是增长本身。
I’ve spent much of my career criticiz-ing companies for an excessive focus on growth and too little attention to returns. But with our latest report, I now find myself in this weird situation where I might begin arguing the opposite. The case of Amazon.com is especially interesting to me because it’s growing rapidly off a large base. What that suggests to me is that the market may be saying that it’s no longer high returns on capital, but rather growth, that is the scarce commodity investors are willing to pay up for.
| 迈克尔·莫布森 | 当控制交易规模、交易类型(即现金还是股票,小规模还是大规模,等等)后,你的成功率可以非常高。 | 米兰诺:这或许反映了价值管理思想家的成功与影响力,他们一直推动公司更关注回报率,这可能已导致钟摆过度摆向了抑制无利润增长的一端。 |
| 我职业生涯的大部分时间都在批评公司过度关注收购者的表现。 | 如今的公司在危机后比之前拥有更高的投资门槛——它们更担心“执行”,而非投资于未来。这些都很好,但当你将这一点推向极端,最终只会剩下寥寥无几的真正好项目。 |
Michael Mauboussin acquirers. And when you control for the Milano: This may be a reflection of the companies today have higher hurdle size of deals, the type of transaction— success and inf luence of value-based rates now than they did before the that is, cash versus stock, small deals vs. management thinkers who have been crisis—and they worry more about large, and so forth—you can really get pushing companies to focus more on “execution” than about investing in to a very high batting average. returns, which may have caused the pen- their future. That’s all great but when I’ve spent much of my career criticiz- dulum to swing too far in discouraging you take that to an extreme, you end up ing companies for an excessive focus on unprofitable growth. with just a few really good projects and
增长得太多,而对回报的关注太少。你不断积累着现金,却无法有效运用。
growth and too little attention to returns. you keep accumulating cash you don’t
| 但看到最新报告后,我现在陷入一种怪异的境地——可能开始反过来论证了。尤其是 亚马逊(Amazon.com) 这个案例,它增长迅猛,让我特别感兴趣。 | 莫布森:还有其他不少因素。20 世纪 80 年代以来,技术、教育以及更有效的薪酬方案,都可能在这一转变中发挥了某种作用。 | 不知道该怎么处理。如果每家公司都这么做,只把现金以股息和回购形式分出去,那社会的资本会怎样?它总得被生产力地投资到某个地方才行。 |
But with our latest report, I now find Mauboussin: There are a lot of other fac- know what to do with. If everybody does myself in this weird situation where I tors, too. Technology, education, and that and just keeps paying out cash as might begin arguing the opposite. The more effective compensation schemes dividends and buying back shares, then case of Amazon.com is especially inter- since the 1980s have all likely played what happens to society’s capital? It’s got esting to me because it’s growing rapidly some role in this shift. to be invested productively somewhere.
在巨大的基数上下降。而这表明——就我个人而言,我一直在主张——
off a large base. And what that suggests to And I for one have been arguing for a
| 我认为,市场可能正在表明,投资者愿意为之付出高价的稀缺商品不再是高资本回报率,而是增长。 | 米兰:近期的金融危机创造了一种前所未有的恐惧和纪律。 | 过去几年里,许多公司可以通过增加投资来提升自身价值,即使这意味着降低资本回报率。 |
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me is that the market may be saying that Milano: The recent financial crisis cre- couple years now that many companies it’s no longer high returns on capital, but ated a level of fear and discipline that could increase their values by investing rather growth, that is the scarce commod- didn’t exist previously. As a fairly direct more, even if that means lowering their ity investors are willing to pay up for. consequence of that experience, many returns on capital. Journal of Applied Corporate Finance • Volume 26 Number 4 Fall 2014 27
并购战略始终表明,以现金融资的收购往往会比那些以股票支付的收购获得市场更积极的反应。而那些支付高于市场溢价(正如人们预期的那样)的收购,往往得到的市场反应则不那么理想。
M&A Strategy have consistently shown that acquisi-Milano: But let’s turn now to one kind tions financed with cash tend to receive of corporate investment, M&A. What a much more favorable reaction from the kind of industry factors make for a bet- market than those that offer stock. And ter acquisition process? Does it seem those that offer to pay higher premiums to matter whether an industry is grow- over market, as one might expect, tend ing or not growing, whether it has high to get less favorable reactions.
回报率还是低回报率?是否存在特定的公司类型或行业,其收购更可能成功?从收购公司股东的角度来看,迈克尔,你能总结一下研究结果对我们回答这些问题有什么启示吗?
returns or low returns? Is there a particu- So, there are a number of characteris-lar type of company or type of industry tics of M&A deals that can help predict where acquisitions are likely to be better? success or failure from the vantage point Michael, can you summarize what the of the acquiring company’s shareholders. studies tell us about these questions?
克兰西:我认为这些研究还表明……莫博辛:嗯,我先提一本最近出版的书吧——一系列小规模交易往往比一笔大型交易创造更多价值。
Clancy: I think the studies also show Mauboussin: Well, let me start by that a series of smaller deals tends to cre-mentioning a book that came out ate more value than one large deal.
去年有一本书叫《策划并购突破与战略分析》,作者研究了多种类型的交易并评估了并购结果。有趣的是,他们发现,当同一行业中两家走下坡路的公司合并时,这类合并反而往往能成为好的交易并创造价值。这就是人们所说的“行业整合”。作者指出的第二类盈利交易是“补强型收购”和“产品线延伸”。但是,当你进入一个从未涉足的新市场——也就是有些人喜欢说的“战略性”交易——收购方的成功率往往非常低。
说到你关于特定行业的问题,虽然我没有具体的答案,但我确实认为有一些发现可以应用于某些行业中发生的交易类型。正如我刚才提到的,收购方的整体回报尽管历史上为负值,但近年来有所改善。我们有相当有力的证据表明,交易的类型很重要。例如,研究显示,当两家衰败的同行业公司合并时,往往能产生好的结果并创造价值,这被称为“行业整合”。第二类盈利的交易是“补强型”和“产品线延伸”交易。但一旦进入从未涉足的新市场——即所谓的“战略型”交易——收购方的成功率就会非常低。
布里斯科:确实如此。但我相信有一些大型收购取得了好结果。问题在于,真正大规模合并往往会造成巨大的管理层精力分散,投资者通常会对此持怀疑态度,而且这种怀疑是有道理的。这种精力分散不仅发生在高管层,还会向下延伸到一线经理。员工们不确定自己是否会因为成本削减措施而失去工作。
克兰西:资产剥离也能创造大量价值。你可以摆脱这些麻烦事。
布里斯科:是的。我只是觉得人们低估了管理层精力分散的影响。这并不意味着你无法采取措施来降低这种风险。你必须在事前就认识到这一点,然后设法建立一些机制来限制这种影响,因为你已经在这方面积累了丰富的经验。我曾任职于两家公司,它们都进行了大量收购,多达 40 次——我们非常擅长将这些公司整合到更大的企业中。
last year called “Masterminding Deal Breakthroughs and M&A Strategy and Briscoe: That’s true. But I’m sure there Analysis.” The authors looked at several are some large acquisitions that have categories of deals and assessed M&A turned out well. It’s just that there tends results. Interestingly, they found that to be so much management distraction when two declining companies in the with really big mergers that investors same industry get together, that actually tend to be skeptical, and rightly so. And tends to be a good merger and creates the distraction’s not just at the executive value. That’s what people refer to as an suite level, but it cascades down through “industry consolidation.” The authors’ to the line managers. People are unsure second category of profitable deals are whether they are going to lose their jobs “bolt-ons” and “line extensions.” But, because of the cost savings effort. when you start getting into new markets you’ve never been in before—what some Clancy: Divestments create a lot of value, people like to call “strategic” deals— too. You’re getting rid of this nuisance. acquirers tend to have a very low batting average. Briscoe: Yes. I just think people under-Now, in response to your question estimate the impact of the management about particular industries, although I distraction. That doesn’t mean that you don’t have specific answers, I do think can’t do things to try to mitigate that there are some findings that can be risk. You have to recognize it up front applied to the kinds of deals that take and then try to put in place things that place in certain industries. As I just will limit that because you’ve done it a mentioned, the overall returns to acquir- lot. I’ve been part of two organizations ers, although historically negative, have where we did a lot of acquisitions, as improved in recent years. And we have many as 40 of them—and we got pretty pretty persuasive evidence that the type good at taking these companies and of deal matters. For example, studies folding them into the larger company.
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28 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 And in all but a handful of cases, things have worked out well.
莫布森:约翰——还有你,保罗——从你们企业的视角来看,你们觉得今天的并购投资机会,与五年前、十年前或十五年前相比,是更好还是更差?
Mauboussin: John— and you too, Paul—from your corporate vantage point, do you think the M&A investment opportunity set today looks better or worse than it did say five, ten, or 15 years ago?
克兰西:整体来看,情况有所好转。
Clancy: On the whole, it looks better.
但是,正如你所说,迈克尔,这要看情况,不能一概而论。就拿你刚才引用的学术圈传统观点——三分之二的收购案历史上未能为收购方创造股东价值——来说吧。去年我们花了不少时间研究这个问题,还仔细看了麦肯锡二十多年前做的那项研究。当真正去分析数据时,会发现两个非常关键的点。其一,收购你本已涉足的业务与收购与你核心业务无关的业务之间存在着巨大差异;收购不相关业务几乎总是让市场持怀疑态度,而业务补强和延伸则往往反响良好。我们还发现,大型收购与较小交易——后者通常更容易整合——的盈利表现也存在显著不同。
But, as you say, Michael, it depends; you can’t generalize too much. Take the conventional academic wisdom you just cited that two thirds of acquisitions historically failed to create shareholder value for the acquirer. We devoted a lot of time to research that question last year, which included taking a careful look at the McKinsey study that was done over 20 years ago. When you actually parse the data, a couple of really key things came to light. One is that there is a huge difference between acquiring businesses you’re already in and those that are not related to your core; acquiring unrelated businesses is almost always viewed with skepticism by the markets, while business add-ons and extensions are often well received. And we also find significant differences between the profitability of larger acquisitions and smaller deals, which are usually easier to integrate.
米兰诺:公司通常用成本削减协同效应而非增长协同效应来论证收购的合理性。
Milano: Companies usually justif y acquisitions on the basis of cost-cutting synergies rather than growth synergies.
我们对过去 15 年的收购研究显示,那些在收购后几年增长率高于收购前几年增长率的公司,其股价表现也更优。
Our research on acquisitions over the last 15 years shows that companies that experience higher growth rates in the years after an acquisition than in the years leading up to it have better share
围绕交易完成前后这段时间的股价表现,以及在执行收购和实现预期收益方面,更频繁进行收购的公司表现更好。我曾在一家投资银行工作过,可以告诉各位,我们的《财富》研究显示,所有演示报告都聚焦于成本协同效应,几乎不强调额外增长。而且我认为,这在很大程度上只是熟能生巧:反复做一件事,你就会越做越好。
莫布森:嗯,并购一直备受研究。
price performance around the time of after the deals close, better at executing the acquisition. But having worked for and realizing the expected benefits. One an investment bank, I can tell you that of our Fortuna studies has shown that all the pitch books were focused on cost the more frequent acquirers deliver bet-synergies with almost no emphasis on ter share price performance. And I think extra growth. that a lot of it is just practice: you get good at something that you do over and Mauboussin: Well, M&A has been stud- over again.
希尔:在过去 40 年里,我至少听过 10 种不同的说法。麦肯锡在《投资者眼中的资本》调查中,询问高管们成本协同效应与收入协同效应的区别。他们发现,在相当比例的案例中,公司实现了成本协同的数字,但几乎没有人达到预期的收入协同效应。所以,投资者对增长协同效应仍持怀疑态度。
米兰:我不认为“增长协同效应”这个说法能准确概括我的观点。真正的问题是,收购一家停滞不前的公司仅仅为了削减成本,与收购一家有增长机会、能够获得资金支持并实现其潜力的公司,这两者之间有天壤之别。大的收购方可以收购一家小公司,然后在几年内将其规模扩大到原先的三到五倍——这是小公司单凭自身无法做到的。只要收购价格保持在合理范围内,这往往是最佳的收购策略。
克兰西:从概念上讲,这意味着有些公司比其他公司更擅长经营资产。
ied at least 10 different ways over the last 40 years. McKinsey did a survey in Investors’ Take on Capital which they asked executives about cost Deployment synergies vs. revenue synergies. They Milano: But let’s turn now to investors’ found that, in a decent percentage of the perspective. Paul and Scott, when you look cases, the companies nailed their cost at a company, what do you think of the synergy numbers, but very few got their quality of the capital deployment choices? projected revenue synergies. So, inves- What are the attributes of companies that tors are still a bit skeptical about growth make good decisions? What causes other synergies. firms to make poor choices? What do you think companies should be doing differ-Milano: I’m not sure that “growth syner- ently than what they’re doing now? gies” is the right way to characterize my point. The real story is that there is a big Hilal: Each of the alternatives for excess difference between buying a company capital—capital expenditures, acqui-that’s stagnating just to take out costs, sitions, return to shareholders, and and buying a company that has growth repayment of debt—can be either an opportunities that can be funded and excellent or a poor use of cash. Investors their potential realized. A big acquirer tend to worry least about capital expen-can take a small acquisition and grow ditures. But the expected return from it to three to five times its previous size an acquisition is not only uncertain, in a few years—something the smaller but reduced by the competitive price firm could not have done alone. These the acquirer must pay for the target. By are often the best acquisition strategies contrast, companies can capture excess as long as the purchase prices can be returns from internal capital projects kept within reason. without having to invest at market-competitive prices—because the opportunity Clancy: Conceptually, then, that means is captive. They can invest in these proj-that some companies are better owners ects at cost, and earn return well above of assets than others. market returns.
但是话虽如此,我认为企业资本配置流程存在一些问题。在预算编制过程中,首席财务官会收到一系列资本项目提案——
But having said that, I think there Milano: Right—and some companies are are some problems with the corpo-just better acquirers than others. Some rate capital allocation process. During companies are better at finding, negoti- the budgeting process, CFOs receive ating, pricing, and closing deals—and a menu of capital project propos-
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如果这些发掘机会的人——无论是资本密集型行业的业务拓展高管,还是公司内部专注于效率提升的六西格玛团队——知道门槛回报率是 12%,他们就会找到能跨过这一门槛的机会,加以开发并提交申请资金。如果首席财务官把回报门槛提高到 14%,这些人就不会浪费时间再去开发 12% 的项目。
als. If the people developing these opportunities—whether they are new business development executives in a capital-intensive industry, or internal efficiency-focused six sigma teams— know that the hurdle is 12%, they will find opportunities that clear that hurdle, develop them, and present them for funding. If the CFO raises the return hurdle to 14%, those same people won’t waste time developing 12% projects.
相反,他们会继续寻找,直到找到能带来 14% 回报的项目——而且他们最终一定会找到,或者至少会想出创新的办法,从一个 12% 的项目里榨出 14% 的回报。
Instead, they will keep looking until they find projects that return 14%—and they will ultimately find them, or at least innovative ways to squeeze 14% returns from a 12% project.
在这个意义上,CFO 们从团队那里得到的,就是他们愿意接受的那些资本项目。如果有更多 CFO 提高标准,他们或许会对眼前涌现的更好机会感到惊讶。
In this sense, then, CFOs get from their teams the capital projects they set-tle for. If more CFOs raised the bar, they might be surprised by the better opportunities they get.
但同时,我也常看到另一类管理者陷入困境——这是另一个层面的问题——即如何在回报率与增长之间取得平衡。在最近参加的一次伯恩斯坦会议上,一家参会公司的首席执行官解释道,他们的资本项目要求的回报率从超安全项目的 12% 到高风险项目的 20% 不等。现场有人问道:“既然你们的回报率如此强劲,且远高于资本成本,有没有考虑过稍微降低门槛来加速增长?”这位高管回答:“没有,我们对目前的门槛回报率很满意。”他随后承认,这更多是基于经营企业的主观直觉,而非理性框架的产物。
At the same time, though, I also often see managers struggle—and this is a different problem—to balance rates of return and growth. At a Bern-stein conference I attended recently, the CEO of one of the presenting companies explained that their capital projects have required rates of return that range from 12% for ultra-safe capital projects to 20% for more risky ones. One of the people in the audience asked, “Given how strong your rates of returns are, and the wide margin by which they clear your cost of capital, have you considered lowering your bar a little bit to acceler-ate growth?” The executive said, “No, we’re happy with our hurdle rate where it is.” He later conceded that this was based on a subjective feel for running the business, and was not the output of an intellectual framework.
事实上,极少有首席执行官和
And in fact, very few CEOs and
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如果让我向所有公司提一条建议,那就是管理层应该对公司业务采取动态的战略视角——也就是说,业务要能持续接受变化的可能。公司需要定期审视自己的各项业务,反复推敲继续持有这些业务的逻辑是否成立。
If I were given the chance to offer one prescription to all companies, it would be that managements should take a strategic view of the company’s businesses that is dynamic—that is, subject to the possibility of continuous change. Companies need to monitor their businesses, and revisit the logic for continuing to hold them, on a regular basis.
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John Briscoe
| CFO 们似乎有一套框架来确定指标应该设在哪里,以及如何平衡增长与资本回报率。但如果没有这样的框架,管理层就只能被动应对摆在他们面前的激励机制。激励机制的设计,是上市公司最需要改进的领域之一。 | 实际上,这是你唯一能创造价值的方式。但如果你是一家真正拥有战略优势或竞争优势、并希望加以利用的企业,那么资本配置虽然仍然重要,可能就没那么关键了。 | 而更常见的是,这些做法反而会摧毁更多价值。这些往往正是那些应该停止投入资本、以某种方式出售或退出的企业。我们经常遇到这种向失败业务不断砸钱的行为。这也是为什么我们总是主张采取某种退出策略的原因。 |
CFOs seem to have a framework for really the only way you can add value. destroying even more value. These are deciding where the bar should be, and But if you’re a business that actually often the kinds of businesses that should how to balance growth and returns on has a strategic advantage or competitive be denied capital and sold or exited in capital. Without such a framework, advantage that you want to exploit, then some way. managers just respond to the incentives capital allocation, while still meaning- We run into this tendency to throw that are presented to them. Incentive ful, may not be as critical. capital at failing businesses all the time. design is a prime area for improvement But let me go back to Greg’s earlier And that’s why we so often find our- in public companies. question about what tends to go wrong. selves advocating strategies of what we
我们经常看到管理者选择他们所谓的“以退为进”。通过剥离失败的业务——斯科特,你对此有何回应?——他们认为这是“对股东友好”的做法,但实际上并非价值最大化的替代方案。许多管理者视自己为经营者,而非资本配置者或价值交易者;当看到一个表现不佳的业务时,退出不仅能释放资本,还能避免失败业务对管理层时间和精力的拖累。正因如此,出售某项业务这类事件,可能会让我们提升对整家公司的评级。
We often find managers choosing what call “addition by subtraction.” By exiting Milano: Scott, what’s your response to they believe is the “shareholder-friendly” a failing business, you not only liberate what you’ve heard so far? thing to do, but what is in fact not the capital, but you avoid the drag of a fail-value-maximizing alternative. Many ing business on management’s time and Ostfeld: First of all, I thought Michael’s managers view themselves as operators, focus. And that’s why an event like a sale comments on strateg y and capital not capital allocators or value traders; of a business can cause us to upgrade our deployment were extremely well put. and when they see a business with sub- rating of an entire company.
在此基础上补充一句:战略就是看利润率或资本回报率。
And to just build on that, strategy is par margins or returns on capital, their
| 与资本配置密不可分 | 正常反应是“把业务修好”。 | 米兰:我们的研究支持这一点。在 |
| 在某种意义上,如果你是“同质化”业务,没有真正令人信服的比较优势,那么唯一重要的事情就是如何配置资本; | 然而问题在于,“修好”这类表现不佳的业务通常需要资本支出,而这些支出在经济上无法被合理论证,最终 | 我们几年前做的一项研究中,我们考察了 |
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inextricably tied to capital deployment normal response is to “fix the business.” Milano: Our research supports this. In a in the sense that if you’re a “commod- The problem, however, is that “fixing” study we did a few years ago, we looked ity” business with no really compelling such subpar businesses often requires at total shareholder returns of the S&P comparative advantages, all that mat- capital expenditures that cannot be 500 companies over a ten-year period ters is how you deploy capital; that’s economically justified, and that end up and found that the median top quartile 30 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance • Volume 26 Number 4 Fall 2014
一家公司创造的价值,是垫底四分之一公司所摧毁价值的二十倍。问题在于,这类精英人士往往没有接受过正规的金融或投资训练;结果,他们更倾向于从会计利润的角度思考,而不是聚焦于为股东创造价值。而这一问题之所以持续存在并不断加剧,是因为这些首席财务官的评价标准——由薪酬委员会和首席执行官制定——往往基于每股收益的提升,而非价值创造。
company created twenty times as much problem with this is that such people value as was destroyed by the median often don’t get much formal training in bottom quartile company. Now, imag- finance or investing; and as a result, they ine if those two companies represented tend to think more in terms of account-two different divisions of the same com- ing profits instead of focusing on creating pany. In that case, the corporate leaders shareholder value. And this problem per-would be better off selling the losers for sists and is reinforced because too often 50 cents on the dollar and focusing their these CFOs are evaluated—by their attention on creating every drop of value compensation committees and their in the winners. CEOs—based on EPS accretion rather than value creation.
布里斯科:换个角度说同样的问题,根据我的经验,另一个大问题是所谓的“代理”问题——由于大多数高管对他们而言,年度薪酬方案比他们已持有的股权增值更为重要,由此导致的企业潜在价值损失。如果激励方案设计不当,高管专注于最大化激励收益而非所持股份价值,就可能产生反常的结果。
管理团队往往倾向于关注执行。也就是说,他们关注的是把事情做对,而不是做对的事情。他们努力把过去五年一直在做的事情继续做得很好。然而,他们通常不会进行战略性的头脑风暴,思考自己应该做什么,甚至应该进入哪些业务领域。
如果我有机会给所有公司提一条建议,那就是管理层应该对其业务组合采取动态的战略视角——也就是说,要随时接受持续变革的可能性。公司需要定期审视其业务,重新评估继续持有这些业务的逻辑,尤其是在能源这类周期性强、变化迅速且剧烈的行业中。
我记得曾与一位首席财务官交谈过,他坚信自己公司的股票被严重低估,而且他没有实质性的高回报用途来使用剩余现金。他对此深信不疑——虽然我知道这是一个相当普遍的看法,但这位先生有相当具体且合理的理由支持他的信念。我当时给他的建议是,利用他可观的剩余债务能力,迅速回购公司相当大比例的股份。我解释说,自我收购要约可能是实施这一策略的最佳方式。
希拉尔:在那些成功持续创造价值的公司中,人们会发现一些共同的主题。
Briscoe: To put that same thought The other big problem in my experi-another way, management teams tend to ence is the so-called “agency” problem, focus on execution. That is, they focus the loss of potential corporate value that on doing things right rather than doing arises from the reality that, for most the right thing. They try to keep doing senior executives, their annual compen-what they have been doing for the last sation package is more material to them five years very well. What they generally than the appreciation of the equity they fail to do, however, is to have a strategic already hold. If the incentive package is brainstorming session about what they not appropriately designed, the execu-should be doing, and indeed about what tives’ focus on maximizing incentives businesses they should be in. rather than the value of their sharehold-If I were given the chance to offer one ings can lead to perverse outcomes. prescription to all companies, it would I recall talking with one CFO who be that managements should take a stra- believed that his company’s stock was tegic view of the company’s businesses significantly undervalued, and that he that is dynamic—that is, subject to the had no material high-return uses for possibility of continuous change. Com- his surplus cash. He believed this with panies need to monitor their businesses, conviction—and while I know that’s a and revisit the logic for continuing to pretty common belief, this guy had fairly hold them, on a regular basis, especially specific and plausible reasons supporting in very cyclical businesses like energy, his belief. And my advice to him was to where things can change so quickly and use his considerable spare debt capac-dramatically. ity to promptly repurchase a substantial percentage of his company. I explained Hilal: There are a number of common that a self-tender could be the best way themes one finds at companies that to carry out his strategy.
资本配置这件事让他们很挣扎。但他不这么看。CFO 的背景是一个因素。有些 CFO 原本是注册会计师出身——在成为财务总监之前,可能还当过公司的审计师——他们的反应是:“嗯,我本来也可以那么做,但与其通过杠杆来做自我要约回购,不如逐年逐步回购股票,这样我就能享受每股收益长期增长的顺风。”
struggle with capital allocation. But he didn’t see it that way. His reac-One is the background of CFOs. tion was, “Well, I could do that, but if Some CFOs come to the position instead of levering to do a self-tender, because they started out as CPAs—and I repurchase shares gradually over the they may have been the company’s audi- years, I can enjoy a long-term earnings tor before becoming a controller. The per share growth tailwind, and I have
《应用公司金融学刊》第 26 卷第 4 期:当我对能否达到每股收益目标感到担忧时,我可以在那些季度灵活地回购更多股份。
Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 the flexibility to repurchase more shares in those quarters where I am concerned about hitting my EPS target.”
但这当然不是追求价值最大化的管理者——或像我们这样的投资者——看待问题的方式。
But that was not, of course, the way a value-maximizing manager—or investors like us—would view the situation.
我请他假设自己拥有整个企业——这是他唯一的资产,也是全家赖以生存的全部家当。在这种假设下,评价他的标准就不是账面利润是否平稳增长,而是他的股权在 20 年或 30 年后值多少钱。他的回答是,虽然他本人理解这种策略的好处,但他不太愿意推行这样的方案,因为股东们可能不会认同。
I asked him to pretend that he owned the whole business—that it was all he owned, and that it is what his whole family depended upon. Under those assumptions, he would be evaluated not on whether he showed smooth earnings growth, but on the value of his equity in 20 or 30 years. His response was that, although he personally understood the benefits of such a strategy, he didn’t feel that comfortable pursuing such a plan because his shareholders might not approve.
周:保罗,你可能当时该告诉他,他根本不用担心股东构成的问题,因为交易完成后股东自然会换一拨人。20 世纪 80 年代末,希悦尔公司借入相当于当时市值 90% 的资金,作为特别股息派发,结果股东几乎完全换了一遍。原先那些靠股息过活的老弱妇孺——以及把大部分资金投入养老金的机构——纷纷离场,取而代之的是像老虎基金这样的对冲基金排队买入他们的股票。
Chew: What you might have told him, Paul, is that he wouldn’t have to worry about his shareholder base because it would have changed as a result of the transaction. That’s what happened when Sealed Air borrowed 90% of its current market value back in the late 1980s and paid it out as a special dividend. In that case, the shareholder base almost completely turned over. In place of the widows and orphans—and the pension funds that invest much of their money—who were relying on dividends, hedge funds like Tiger Management lined up to buy their shares.
在将资本结构彻底翻了个底朝天之后,这家公司的经营业绩有了显著改善——一部分原因是他们必须偿还债务,但更重要的,我认为,是因为管理层和那些对冲基金如今都持有公司大量的股权。
And after turning the capital struc-ture upside down, the company made remarkable improvements in operating performance—in part because they had to service debt, but, more importantly, I think, because management, together with the hedge funds, now had large equity stakes in the business.
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希拉尔:这个故事完美地说明了一点。我故事里的那位首席财务官说,他喜欢自己的股东,不想疏远他们,而且股东们喜欢一个可预测的故事。有些人希望进行股票回购。但在所有这些分歧背后,投资者群体——也就是我们所说的“市场”——最根本的需求是创造股东价值。正如迈克尔提醒我们的那样,创造股东价值的最佳方式是遵循净现值法则:只接受那些预期回报超过资本成本的项目。并且确保你现有业务的回报至少达到资本成本——对于那些达不到这一标准的业务,就要准备关停它们,或者卖给那些认为能改善状况的别的所有者。
Hilal: That’s a perfect illustration of the some want share repurchases. point. The CFO in my story said that he But underlying all these differences, liked his shareholders and didn’t want the most fundamental demand by inves-to alienate them, and that they liked a tors as a group—what we refer to as “the predictable story. If you’re beholden to market”—is for the creation of share-shareholders who for some reason want a holder value. And as Michael reminded smooth EPS trajectory, you’ll get one set us, the best way to create shareholder of shareholders. But if you demonstrate value is to follow the NPV rule: take only that you will predictably act to increase those projects that are expected to earn shareholder value, you will get a different more than the cost of capital. And make kind of shareholder—and, in my view, a sure that your existing operations earn at more sophisticated investor that will be least the cost of capital—and for those capable of assigning higher values to your that can’t meet that standard, then be shares. But I didn’t persuade him. prepared to shut them down or sell them to another owner that thinks it can.
周:根据我的经验,大多数管理层认为他们的股东基础是给定的,是他们无法影响或改变的东西。他们接手工作时一并继承了这些股东,无论顺境逆境都必须支持这一群体。而那些遵循这些原则的公司,最有希望最大化其“内在价值”。最终,这种路线很可能会创造最大的价值。当然,在某些情况下,即便深思熟虑的战略也不一定奏效——经营良好的公司也可能失败。
Chew: In my experience, most manag- By following these principles, compa-ers think that their shareholder base is a nies have the best chance of maximizing given; it’s something they’re stuck with their “intrinsic value.” In the end, that and have no way to influence or change. approach is likely to drive the most They inherit their shareholders with the value. Of course, in some cases even job, and they have to support that con- well-thought-out strategies don’t work stituency through thick and thin. out—and well-run companies can fail.
但我认为,企业实现长期成功最可靠的方式,是运用财务理论核心的价值创造原则,来驱动当下的业绩表现和持续的业务创新。
But, in my view, the most reliable way Hilal: Precisely. Not many CFOs are for companies to achieve long-run suc-interested in the turbulence that comes cess is to use the value creation principles with a turning shareholder base. at the core of finance theory to drive both current performance and continu-Clancy: When talking about this ques- ous innovation in the business.
我完全同意,保罗。公司应该专注于如何创造最大价值,而不是让现有股东开心。人们往往把这两件事搞混了。当然,单个股东和我们预期的一样,既有优势也有局限。许多股东,比如,时间视野确实很短,比公司规划部门还要短得多。说到投资者群体,我认为有必要区分一下:个人股东的偏好习惯,和股东价值创造的过程,是两码事。如果你专注于如何创造最大价值——并且把你自己的一套做法向投资界解释清楚——你自然会找到欣赏你、想买你股票的股东。
tion of investor clienteles, I think it’s important to distinguish between the Briscoe: I agree completely, Paul. Com-habits and preferences of individual panies ought to focus on how to create shareholders and the process of share- the most value and not on keeping their holder value creation. People tend to current shareholders happy. If you focus confuse the two. Individual sharehold- on how to create the most value—and ers are, of course, human beings with you do a reasonably good job of explain-all the strengths and limitations we ing your approach to the investment expect of them. Many shareholders, for community—you will find shareholders example, have really short time horizons, who appreciate what you’re doing and much shorter than the planning staffs want to buy your shares.
大多数公司都是如此。但迈克尔还提到了另一项重要性——让管理层的利益与股东的利益保持一致。公司应当确保其薪酬计划能够体现这一点。
of most corporations. But many other Michael mentioned the importance shareholders buy and hold. Some share- of aligning management’s interest with holders want dividends, while others shareholders.’ Companies should ensure favor growth through acquisitions. And they have a compensation plan in which
32 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 管理者不可能获胜,除非股东也如此。在我看来,一套因达到或超过每股收益目标而奖励公司管理者的制度,几乎必然会导致某种会计操纵。创造利润却不会增加现金流或长期价值的手段实在太多。你必须找到能反映资本是在产生现金与高回报率——在某些情况下,折旧是企业的真实成本,所以用折旧后衡量;在另一些情况下,折旧和研发费用实质上是对公司未来的投资,所以用折旧和研发前衡量——的业绩衡量指标。顺便说一句,亚马逊的股价体现了市场具备这种分辨能力的最佳例证,这是我能想到的。
32 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 managers cannot win unless the shareholders do. To me, a system that rewards corporate managers for meeting or beat-ing EPS targets is almost certain to lead to some kind of accounting manipula-tion. There are just too many ways to create earnings that don’t end up increasing cash flows or long-run value. You have to find performance measures that show where capital is either generating cash and high rates of return—in some cases, measured after depreciation, when depreciation is a real cost of the business; in other cases, before depreciation and R&D, when such expenses really represent an investment in the company’s future. The stock price of Amazon.com, by the way, represents the best illustration of the market’s ability to make that discrimination that I can think of.
米拉诺:我认为美国企业界很大一部分资本预算错误,都可以归咎于意外后果法则。大多数公司管理层起初都旨在为股东做正确的事——但随后他们常常因为依赖那些衡量价值的替代指标而偏离正轨,这些指标最终误导他们做出了糟糕的决策。
Milano: I think that much of corporate America’s capital budgeting mistakes can be attributed to the law of unintended consequences. Most corporate managements set out to do the right thing by their shareholders—but then they often get side-tracked by relying on proxies for value that end up misleading them into bad decisions.
我们曾为一家资本回报率极高的大型企业做过分析,评估了公司整体及各业务板块的绩效,结果惊讶地发现,他们在回报率最高的业务上再投资率极低。当我们向管理层询问原因时,得到的回答是:这项业务已经没有更具前景的投资机会了。
We did some work for a very large company that was earning very high rates of return on capital. We evaluated corporate-wide and divisional performance, and we were shocked by the low rate of reinvestment in their highest-returning business. When we asked management about it, we were told that there were no more promising investment opportunities in this business.
但我们发现,薪酬计划取决于你能将资本回报率提升多少。这意味着
But we found that the compensation plan was driven by how much you could increase the return on capital. This meant
如果你公司高层有一位出色的资本配置者,那就不需要靠股息支付来约束他们,防止他们去做净现值为负的投资。
If you have a great capital allocator sitting at the top of a company, then you don’t need the constraint of dividend payments to help make them avoid negative-NPV investments.
在这种情况下,我认同机会主义式的资本配置做法是正确之道。就让世界上那些沃伦·巴菲特们继续牢牢攥住自己的资本,按自己的判断去运用吧。
In that case, I agree that an opportunistic capital allocation approach is the right way to do it. Let the Warren Buffetts of the world continue to hold on to their capital and use it at their discretion.
但市场上还有很多公司不适用这个模型,很多公司受益于高度杠杆化或定期以股息形式分出现金这类纪律的约束。如果我说错了,像 Pershing 和 Jana 这样的对冲基金的商业模式就不会产生那么高的回报,也不会吸引到那么大规模的资本。
But there are a lot of companies out there where this model won’t work, a lot of companies that benefit from the discipline of either high leverage, or paying out capital on a regular basis in the form of dividends. If what I was saying was wrong, the business model of hedge funds like Pershing and Jana would not have produced the high returns and attracted as much capital as it has.
斯科特·奥斯特菲尔德 表现最好的企业,比方说资本回报率达 40% 的那个,只有当新投资项目能带来 15% 的回报并拉高其平均回报率时,才更有利可图。 于是这家公司拒绝了新项目,却把钱持续砸向回购和股息。他们没有像所有者那样去思考。
Scott Ostfeld the best-performing business with, let’s in 15% projects and bring up their aver- just kept piling money into buybacks and say, a 40% return on capital would be age returns. dividends. They were not thinking like better off only if new investments yielded So the company was turning down owners.
超过 40% 才能提升平均水平。在一个领域有 35% 的回报机会,但在其他业务中——这些业务同时也在投资于回报率仅 15% 的项目——格雷格,他们需要的是将另外一部分资金投进去。与此同时,这家公司旧的 EVA 财务管理体系或
more than 40% to bring up the average. 35% return opportunities in one area But in the other businesses that were while investing in 15% projects in Chew: What they needed, Greg, was our earning only, say, 10%, they could invest another. At the same time, the company old EVA financial management system or
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类似的东西。这样一来,所有部门都有动力去承接那些回报高于资本成本的项目。新上任的加拿大太平洋铁路 CEO 帮助提升业绩的方法之一,就是向整个管理层——从上到下——讲解资本回报的含义。他从面向公司各级员工的全体大会上讲起。为了说明这些概念,他会举一个假设中的割草公司为例,让人们很容易理解。用这家公司做例子,能帮助每位员工对资本成本和股东回报形成一种直觉上的把握。比如,他喜欢谈论“让资产出汗”。这种教育对行为有着非常强大的影响。
布里斯科:我是 EVA 的粉丝,但我不认为你可以完全依赖单一指标,在所有公司都用完全一样的方式。你必须针对特定公司打造不同的版本。你需要能够在内部衡量业绩,让一线经理理解自己的表现如何影响全局。
something like it. That way, all the divi- projects. One way that the new CEO sions would have had incentives to take of Canadian Pacific has helped improve all projects that earn more than the cost performance is by educating the team of capital. Even though it’s been many all the way down the line on what years since we both worked at Stern return on capital means. He starts with Stewart, I still think EVA is as good a broad company addresses to groups that single period measure as you can find. include the employees from all levels at the company. To illustrate the concepts, Briscoe: I’m a fan of EVA, but I don’t he talks about a hypothetical lawn-think that you can depend on just one mowing company that people can easily metric applied in exactly the same imagine. Using that company as an way at every company. You have to example helps each employee develop an create different f lavors for particular intuitive feel for the cost of capital and companies. You need to be able to shareholder returns. He likes to talk, for measure performance internally so that example, about “sweating the assets.” line managers can understand how their This education has a very powerful performance affects the whole. And you effect on behavior.
我希望业务线经理与高级管理层和股东保持高度一致。因此,我非常支持约翰关于推动教育和激励机制贯穿组织各层级的观点。
莫布辛:这个小组里的投资者认同这一点吗?你们有没有见过设计得确实很出色的薪酬体系?
不同时间跨度的业务
希拉尔:我完全同意约翰刚才关于向下层团队开展教育的说法。首席财务官只能为呈报上来的价值创造项目提供资金。不了解股东价值创造的员工,不可能指望他们能很好地发现价值创造机会。因此,如果下面团队没有得到恰当培训,呈报给首席财务官的资本项目质量就会大打折扣。
米拉诺:保罗·克兰西,您所处的业务,至少从表面看,与我们讨论的情况非常相似:它会产生大量且相当稳定的现金流。但您还有另一部分业务,要努力通过研发来创造未来价值。用这里讨论的工具和激励措施来管理那些回报期遥远的业务活动,可能很困难。在这样的业务中,您如何培养价值思维?
want the line managers fully aligned with So, I’m a big supporter of John’s both senior managers and shareholders. point about the importance of driving education and incentives down through Mauboussin: Do the investors in this all levels of the organization. group agree with that? And have you seen companies with really well-designed Businesses with Different Time compensation systems? Horizons Milano: Paul Clancy, you’re in a business Hilal: I agree completely with what that, at least on the outside, appears to John just said about educating the team behave an awful lot like the situations further down the line. The CFO can we’re talking about; it produces a large fund only the value-creating projects that and fairly stable stream of cash f low. are presented to him or her. Employees But you also have another part of the who don’t understand shareholder business where you’re trying to develop value creation can’t be expected to do future value from your research. It may as good a job spotting value-creating be hard to manage business activities opportunities. As a result, the quality of with payoffs far in the future using the the capital projects presented to a CFO kinds of tools and incentives discussed will suffer if the team below isn’t properly here. How do you cultivate a value trained. mindset in such businesses?
好的,这是一个很具体的例子:铁路行业。我们的一项重要投资是加拿大太平洋铁路,这是一个资本密集度极高的行业——铁路公司通常每年将收入的 18% 左右用于资本支出。Clancy:你必须针对那些回报周期长、时间跨度大的业务,量身定制绩效评估和薪酬体系。但同时,你也必须对资本支出施加一定的纪律约束。
A good exa mple is t he ra il industry. One of our big investments Clancy: You have to tailor your perfor-is in Canadian Pacific, which is an mance evaluation and compensation enormously capital-intensive business— systems for businesses with longer pay-railroads typically spend as much as offs and time horizons. But you also have 18% of revenue each year on capital to impose some discipline on capital
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在研发方面的支出上也是如此。过去 20 到 30 年间,制药行业表明,在同一行业内,一些公司能在研发中产生非常高的回报率,而另一些公司最终却浪费了大量资本。
34 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 spending, even in R&D. Over the last 20 to 30 years, the pharmaceutical business has shown that within the same industry some firms can produce very high rates of return in R&D, while other firms can end up wasting large amounts of capital.
为什么会出现这种情况?随着公司规模变大,一个广为人知的趋势是官僚体制逐渐形成,而一旦这种体制确立下来,就会变得极难管理。事实证明,官僚体制确实严重阻碍了科学发现的过程。
Why does this happen? As companies get bigger, there is a well-k nown tendency for bureaucracies to develop that, once they get established, can be very hard to manage. Bureaucracies have proven to really impair the scientific discovery process.
对我们而言,研发决策是比许多收购或回购更重大的决策。在五年或十年的时间跨度里,投入研发的资本配置规模往往大于返还给股东的资本或收购支出。
For us, R&D decisions are bigger decisions than many acquisitions or share repurchases. Over the course of five or ten years, the deployment of capital to R&D is often larger than the return of capital to shareholders or acquisitions.
因此,研发支出是价值创造的关键决定因素。在评估研发支出时,你必须具备多年的时间视野——并且必须采取组合投资式的思路,因为很多项目最终都不会产生成果。
So, it is the crucial determinant of value creation. And when assessing R&D expenditures, you have to have a multi-year time horizon—and you must take a portfolio approach since a lot of the projects are not going to come to fruition.
我们的策略之一,就是尽快识别出那些行不通的项目,然后关掉它们。如果做得好,单是这个过程就能为股东创造可观的股东价值。你做出的选择在流程的极早期,所以你真的必须基于科学来做这些决策——因为在那个阶段,财务预测是极为不确定的。在这个阶段,你根本无法建立一个概率模型,然后说这就是净现值。我们也会做一些财务计算,但这些方法非常依赖概率。
One of our strategies is to identify as quickly as possible the projects that aren’t going to work and then shut them down. If done right, that process alone can create meaningful shareholder value. The choices you make are so early in the process that you really need to make those decisions based on science—because at that point the financial projections are so uncertain. At this stage, you can’t really put together a model of probabilities and say this is the NPV. We do some financial calculations, but the approaches are very probabilistic;
它们的依据是思考多种不同的情景,并尝试为每一种情景分配概率和现金流结果。
they’re based on thinking about a number of different scenarios, and trying to assign probabilities and cash flow outcomes to each of them.
米兰:所以研发在流程中如此早期——他们在 2009 年市场跌去一半时,花了大约四分之一的钱回购股票。这应该恰恰相反才对。有多少上市公司管理者在做这些决策时,像所有者那样思考,考虑净现值和每股内在价值?
克兰西:我们仍然保持一些与经济模型紧密相关的护栏。我认为大多数公司已经看到,在你真正了解的领域做科学工作时,成功几率更高。当你为了追求多元化而偏离时,情况就不一样了。
现场人士:迈克尔,你在行为经济学领域做过很多研究。在公司回购和并购中,管理层的“非理性”是否扮演了某种角色?
Milano: So R&D is so early in the pro- they spent about a quarter of that buy-duction process that you have to make ing back stock in 2009 when the market decisions based on science rather than dropped in half. It should be the exact projected cash flows, right? opposite. How many managers of public companies are thinking like owners and Clancy: We still maintain some guard- about NPV and intrinsic value per share rails that are tied strongly to an economic when making these decisions? model. I think most companies have seen Michael, you’ve done a lot of work in that when you do scientific work in areas the behavioral economics area. Is there that you actually know about, you have any role for management “irrationality” a higher chance of success. It’s when in explaining corporate buybacks and you stray in the pursuit of diversifica- M&A?
莫布辛:我先说一个简单的观点——企业通常在手头现金充裕的时候回购股票,而那往往是盈利和股价处于相对高位的时候。但当股价低迷时,企业的盈利和现金水平通常也较低,所以它们在人们认为应该回购股票的时候反而不太可能回购。
布里斯科:但归根结底,未来现金流的现值依然适用,只不过在不同行业中应用方式略有不同。在某些情况下,你投入的资金可能多年后才能收回投资,而在另一些行业,回报来得更快。
莫布辛:这不仅仅是研发项目的问题,收购也是如此——企业通常不会做出明智或理性的决策。
tion—and this is true not only of R&D projects, but also acquisitions—that Mauboussin: Well, let me start with the companies generally don’t make wise or simple point that companies tend to buy informed decisions. back shares when they have lots of cash, and that tends to be when earnings and Briscoe: But it seems that ultimately the stock prices are at relatively high levels. present value of future cash flows still But when their stock prices are low, their applies, even if a little bit differently in earnings and levels of cash also tend to different industries. In some cases, the be low—and so they’re less likely to buy cash that you’re investing may not pay back stock when you might think they back for years, while in others you may should.
产生现金回报几乎立竿见影。但话说回来,我认为,通过对针对特定行业设计的绩效衡量指标进行微调与调整,你最终总能处于更好的境地。同样的思路也适用于并购。经理人很可能在深度熊市中错失机会,因为他们和投资者一样会感到恐惧;而当你恐惧时,本能的反应就是保存资本。
generate cash returns almost immedi- And the same thinking applies to ately. But that said, I think you’re always M&A. Managers are likely to fail to seize going to end up in a better place with opportunities during deep bear markets tweaks and adjustments to performance because they, like investors, are scared; measures that are designed for the par- and when you’re scared, the natural ticular industry. response is to conserve capital.
不过话虽如此,我也认为股票回购:高价买入、低价卖出这样的事确实存在。高管们实际上在股息和回购之间划出了一条界线,但我不确定他们是否意识到自己在这么做。公司首席执行官们极力避免削减股息,即使在市场低迷时期也是如此。同时,他们也很不愿意削减资本支出。因此,在股息和资本支出基本固定的情况下,股票回购就成了一种“剩余项”。如果我们完成了投资、支付了股息,手头还有余钱,那么才会考虑进行股票回购。
But having said that, I also think that Stock Repurchase: Buying High executives effectively make a distinction and Selling Low between dividends and buybacks that Milano: Ok, we’ve spent a good deal of I’m not sure they are aware of making. time talking about corporate investment CEOs try very hard to avoid cutting divi-decisions. Let’s now discuss how compa- dends, even in downturns. And they are nies decide to distribute capital, either also pretty reluctant to cut capital expen-through dividends or stock buybacks. ditures. So, with dividends and capex First, can someone tell me why com- both pretty much fixed, that makes share panies spend four or five times as much repurchases a “residual.” If we’ve made on stock repurchases when their stock is our investments and paid our dividend, expensive than when it’s cheap? The S&P and we still have some money left over, 500 companies spent over half a trillion then we’ll consider doing a share repur-dollars buying back stock in 2007 and chase.
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Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 In 2009, corporate managers were scared like everybody else. With cash levels then relatively low, very few managers were prepared to do buybacks. And the opposite is true during good times when residual cash is higher but, unfor-tunately, so are share prices.
米兰诺:我喜欢把它称为资本配置的“啄食秩序理论”。
Milano: I like to call that the “pecking order theory” of capital deployment.
公司只有在拿钱没有更好用途的时候才会回购股票,这种情况往往发生在它们现金产出过剩的时期,而这也通常意味着股价处于高位。
Companies do buybacks only when they have nothing better to do with money, which tends to be when you’re producing more cash, which also tends to be when your share price is high.
奥斯菲尔德:成本削减也是如此。通常只有在收入下降时,才会出现大规模的成本削减。为什么?因为管理层的心理和信心可能至关重要。我们喜欢说,企业是顺势而为的买家。正是更高水平的现金储备、对自身业务的信心,以及对外部环境的良好感觉,这三者的共同作用驱动企业去购买和投资——而价格几乎变得无关紧要。股票回购的最高纪录是在 2007 年第四季度创下的。
Ostfeld: That’s true of cost cuts, too. You generally get massive cost cuts only when revenue drops. Why? Because management psychology and confidence can matter a lot. We like to say that corporations are momentum buyers. It’s the confluence of higher cash levels, confidence in your own business, and good feeling about your external environment that drives companies to buy and invest—and the price becomes almost irrelevant. The record for stock buybacks was set in the fourth quarter of 2007.
但在金融危机爆发后,回购停止了——股息成为(即便不是唯一的)主要方式,用来返还多余现金。
But after the financial crisis set in, the buybacks stopped—and dividends became the main if not the only way to pay off excess cash.
克兰西:迈克尔,你认为公司在思考股息与股票回购的问题时,最佳方式是什么?
Clancy: Michael, what do you think is the best way for companies to think about the question of dividends versus stock buybacks?
莫布森:股息可以成为向市场发出的积极信号,但如果你公司的股票被低估,我更倾向于看到回购。
Mauboussin: Dividends can be a positive signal to the market, but if your stock is undervalued, I prefer to see buybacks.
有可能实现更高的回报率。
There’s the possibility of a better rate of
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回报,股东可以自行安排其进出时机;它们出现在 1980 年代初期,是法律和监管环境变化的结果。在法律为回购股份的公司创造“安全港”之前,股票回购根本无法大规模进行——布里斯科:但如果你预期你的股息会随时间增长呢?那会改变分析吗?
return, and the shareholder can time his enon; they came about in the early 1980s or her tax consequence. as a result of a change in the legal and regulatory environment. Until the cre-Briscoe: But what if you’re expecting ation in 1982 of a legal “safe-harbor” for your dividends to rise over time? Does companies buying back their shares, buy-that change the analysis? backs couldn’t really happen in a major
方式。这意味着我们仍然只有莫布森:我不确定那是否真的重要。如果股息不支付,或者回购规模显著。
way. And this means that we still have Mauboussin: I don’t know if that really only a little over 30 years of history of matters. If dividends are not paid, or are significant buybacks.
已支付但未增加股息,那么股东依然持有一家持有现金的公司的部分股权。对投资者而言,重要的是总回报——即资本增值加上股息。
奥斯菲尔德:但如果从投资者的角度来考虑股息,你或许更希望直接拿到那笔现金,因为资本的返还能够防止管理层浪费资金。仅凭这一点,股息就很关键。
不过,对前 15 年的研究显示,回购实际上为现有股东增加了大量价值。但最近 15 年的结果有所不同。我看到的资料表明,回购对股东仍然有利。不过,对于因错误理由——比如为了抵消高管股票期权授予带来的预期稀释——而进行回购的公司,情况往往并非如此。
paid but not increased, then sharehold- Now the studies of the first 15 of those ers still own part of a company that is 30 years showed that buybacks actually holding on to that cash. And it’s the total added a lot of value for the existing share-return—that is, capital appreciation plus holders. But the results have been different dividends—that matters to investors. for the most recent 15 years. The work I’ve seen suggests that buybacks are still good Ostfeld: But if you think about the divi- for shareholders. But that tends not to be dend as an investor, you may prefer to get true for companies that do buybacks for that cash directly because that return of the wrong reasons—for example, to offset capital prevents managers from wasting anticipated dilution from executive stock the money. And for that reason alone, a option grants.
增长股息策略可能带来显著的价值提升。奥斯特菲尔德:当我们谈到“对股东有利”时,是指回购公告时产生显著的超额收益,还是指回购的长期效应?莫布森:当然是指长期。这正是迈克·詹森的“自由现金流”理论的核心:以任何形式向股东支付现金,都能防止管理层做出不明智的投资决策。
growing dividend strategy could result in significant capital appreciation. Ostfeld: When we talk about “good for shareholders,” are we talking about Mauboussin: Absolutely. That’s Mike significant abnormal returns on the Jensen’s “free cash flow” theory: paying announcement of the buybacks, or are out money to shareholders in any form we talking about the long-term effects of prevents management from doing some- the buybacks?
用现金做傻事。
thing dumb with the cash.
米拉诺:两者都重要。但对我来说,更长期的影响更为重要。而且有更新的数据表明,将现金流更大部分用于回购的公司,长期为股东创造的总回报反而更低。但我想回到择时不当这个问题上。在我的公司,我们提出了一项名为“回购 ROI”的衡量指标,它根据回购后股价的走势来量化回购的年化回报率。如果你以 20 美元回购股票,股价在第二年涨到了 25 美元,那么回购 ROI 就是 25%。
马里安:我不太同意你关于回购证据的那句话。
重要的是要认识到,股票回购是一个相对较新的现象。不过,这二者之间是有区别的,因为你可以通过股息或回购来分配自由现金流。而在我看来,我们目前掌握的所有证据表明,公司在回购时机的选择上做得一塌糊涂,总是在股价处于高位时买入,这才是最关键的差异所在。
Milano: Both, but to me the longer-term Milano: There is a difference, though, effects are more important. And there’s because you can distribute free cash flow more recent data showing that compa-either through dividends or buybacks. nies that deploy a greater percentage of And to me the most important differ- their cash flow toward buybacks deliver ence is provided by all the evidence we lower total shareholder returns over time. now have that companies do a bad job But I want to go back to this question of timing their buybacks, buying when of bad market timing. At my company, their stock prices turn out to be high. we’ve come up with a measure we call “Buyback ROI” that quantifies the annu-Mauboussin: I’m not sure I agree with alized return of buybacks based on where that statement about the evidence on the share price goes after the buyback. buybacks. If you buy back stock at 20 and it rises It’s important to recognize that stock to 25 over the next year, that’s a 25% buybacks are a relatively recent phenom- Buyback ROI. By taking this approach
36《应用公司金融杂志》第 26 卷第 4 期 随着时间的推移,如果回购在两、五或十年内每季度执行一次,我们往往会发现回报相当糟糕,原因很简单:公司总是在股票被证明最贵的时候持续买入。那些没有在回购中卖出股份的剩余股东,境况往往反而更糟。
36 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 over time, with buybacks happening quarterly over a two-, five-, or ten-year period, we see the returns are often quite poor, simply because companies keep buying their stock when it turns out to have been most expensive. The remain-ing shareholders that don’t sell into these buybacks are often worse off.
克兰西:过去 15 年里,我们经历过两轮牛市,每轮之后都跟着熊市。
Clancy: In the last 15 years we had two bull runs each followed by bear markets.
未来十五年我们会重演那一幕,还是会看到截然不同的景象?我们没有足够的历史数据来得出强有力的结论。
Will we see a repeat of that over the next fifteen years or are we going to see something totally different? We don’t have as much historical data as we need to draw strong conclusions.
奥斯特菲尔德:在我看来,你只需要知道股票长期来看是上涨的。如果你相信这一点,那么回购在整体上创造价值就是一个不证自明的道理,尽管有证据表明回购的时机选择并不好。
Ostfeld: In my view, all you have to know is that stocks tend to rise over time. If you believe that, then it’s axiomatic that buybacks create value in the aggregate, notwithstanding the evidence that they are poorly timed.
财富转移重要吗?
Does The Wealth Transfer Matter?
莫布辛:好的,但我觉得我们可能漏掉了一个重要的点,我想试着说清楚。这里有一个价值守恒原理,在思考回购效应时非常重要,一定要牢记。
Mauboussin: Okay, but I think we’re missing something important here that I want to try and explain. There’s a value conservation principle that’s very important to keep in mind when thinking about the effects of buybacks.
我的观点是:一家公司在向股东进行分配之后的价值是相同的,无论分配方式是股息还是回购。区别在于股东如何被对待。如果你在股票被高估时进行回购,卖出者会受益,而持续持有的股东则会受损。如果你在股票被低估时进行回购,持续持有的股东会受益,而卖出者则会受损。只有在派发股息,或者以公允价值购买股票的情况下,所有股东才能得到平等的对待。此外,
Here’s my point: the value of a company following a payout to its shareholders is the same whether it’s a dividend or a buyback. What’s different is how shareholders are treated. If you buy back overvalued stock, the sellers benefit at the expense of the ongoing shareholders. If you buy undervalued stock, the ongoing shareholders benefit at the expense of the sellers. Only in the case of a dividend, or a purchase of stock at fair value, do all shareholders get treated equally. Also,
我们在潘兴广场的对冲基金中,激进投资的平均持有期大约是四年,这比普通被动型机构持有一只股票的时间要长得多。每当我们进行投资时,都会把自己视为公司的长期合作伙伴。
Our average hold at Pershing for our activist investments is about four years, which is much longer than a normal passive institution will hold a stock. When we make an investment, we consider ourselves long-term partners with the company.
在许多情况下,我们与这些公司进行了非常开放且富有建设性的对话。
In many cases, we have had very open and constructive dialogues with the companies.
事实上,他们往往把我们当作免费的顾问。他们得到的建议来自一个在场中下注极深的人,这个人与股东利益一致,会基于股东的最佳利益给出建议,而且会长期在场,承受建议带来的收益或后果。外部咨询顾问想要咨询费,银行家想要交易佣金。我们不向任何人收取费用。我们只希望股东赢。
In fact, they tend to view us as free consultants. They’re getting a study from somebody who’s got an enormous amount of skin in the game, who is aligned with their shareholders, who will give them advice based on the best interests of the shareholders and who will be around long enough to reap the benefits, or suffer the consequences of the advice. An outside consultant will want a fee and a banker will want a transaction fee. We’re not getting a fee from anybody. We just want the shareholders to win.
有些首席财务官和首席执行官意识到了这一点,反而会欢迎这种对话。
And there are CFOs and CEOs that recognize that and actually welcome the conversation.
Paul Hilal
Paul Hilal
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如果一项研究显示,近年来,作为某家公司的股东,那些按兵不动的公司,平均而言,比起有所作为的公司——即通过回购股票来提高你在公司中的持股比例——其每股收益增长表现更佳。那些将现金流中更大比例进行再投资的公司,股价表现优于再投资较少的公司。而回购规模最大的公司往往再投资更少,其股价也相应受损。这就像回购挤占了投资的空间;回购是一条更容易实现每股收益快速增长的捷径。
所以,格雷格,我想我说得没错——你所有评论和分析的重点,都在于那些长期持有的股东。
米拉诺:没错,我关注的是那些留在公司的股东。
if you are the shareholder of a company own studies show that in recent years, that is buying stock, doing nothing is and on average, the companies that have doing something—increasing your per- reinvested a larger fraction of their cash centage ownership in the company. flow have had better share price perfor-So, Greg, I think I’m right when I say mance than the companies that reinvest that the focus of all of your comments and less. And those doing the biggest buy-analysis is on the ongoing shareholders. backs tend to reinvest less and their share price suffers. It’s as if the buybacks crowd Milano: That’s right, my focus is on the out the investment; it’s an easier path to shareholders that stay with the company, quick EPS growth.
不卖的人。我更在乎决定持有我股票的投资者,而不是那些已经卖出了的人。
Chew:但股价表现好转,有很大一部分是否反映了这样一个事实——
the ones that don’t sell. I do care more about the investors that decide to hold Chew: But could much of the better my stock than the ones that have sold share price performance reflect the fact
对此,我可以打个比方:当我评估那些收购机会远超选择高分红公司的企业时,我不会因为被收购公司的股东获得了巨额收益——即便这对社会可能有益——就去称赞管理层。我关心的是收购方股东从中得到了什么。而在回购问题上,我最在意的是留下来的股东。
Chew:但如果你接受迈克尔的观点,认为卖出股票的股东与现有股东同等重要,那么判断回购是否“有利于经济”,其实只有一个关键问题。你需要弄清的是:公司把现金全部派发出去之后,其经营表现是变得更好还是更差。那真的是多余现金吗——派发现金是否因此阻止了公司进行糟糕的投资?还是说公司实际上原本有良好的投资机会,却因为派发现金而让管理层放弃了?
Milano:有可能——但这可能也反映出一种日益增长的趋势:公司开始根据资本回报率的提升来奖励员工。别忘了迈克尔刚才说的,如今公司实现的现金回报率比过去 60 年中的任何时期都要高。新投资往往会拉低短期回报,因此投资越少,回报反而越容易提升。除了少数行业(比如大宗化学品)之外,我们发现在大多数行业,再投资率越高,股东总回报(TSR)就越高。所以,当你说回购股票能阻止公司做糟糕投资时,对于那些确实在做糟糕投资的公司来说当然成立。但总体而言,我们发现那些投资更多的公司,为股东带来了更好的股价表现。
it. To make an analogy, when I evaluate that those companies have much better acquisitions I don’t commend manage- growth opportunities than the compa-ment because the shareholders of the nies that choose the higher payouts? company they just bought walked away with a huge gain—even though that Milano: Possibly—but it could also might be good for society. I care about reflect the growing tendency of compa-what’s in it for the buyer’s shareholders. nies to pay people for improving their And in buybacks I care most about the returns on capital. Remember Michael’s shareholders that remain. point that companies are now delivering higher cash flow returns on capital than Chew: But if you take Michael’s position they have in any of the last 60 years. New that selling shareholders are as important investments tend to drag down short-as the existing shareholders, then there’s term returns, so less investment tends really only one question that matters in to boost returns. With the exceptions terms of whether buybacks are “good of a few industries, such as commodity for the economy.” What you want to chemicals, we found that the higher the understand is whether companies per- reinvestment rate, the higher the TSR. form differently, better or worse, as a So, when you say that buying back result of paying out all the cash. Was stock keeps companies from making bad it really excess cash—and did the pay- investments, that will be true of course outs thus help prevent companies from for the companies that are in fact mak-making bad investments? Or did the ing bad investments. But, on average, we company actually have good investment find that those companies that are invest-opportunities that the payouts caused ing more are delivering better share price management to pass up? performance for their shareholders.
米兰诺:我同意你的观点,即公司—— 希拉尔:这是个有趣的结论,但正如我认为唐所暗示的那样,你必须小心因果关系。更高的股东总回报是否仅仅来自更高的
Milano: I agree with you that compa- Hilal: That’s an interesting conclusion, nies pay out cash because they view it but, as I think Don was suggesting, you as excess cash; management doesn’t see have to be careful about causality. Does profitable ways of reinvesting it. But our the higher TSR result simply from higher
38 应用公司金融杂志 第 26 卷第 4 期 投资预算或更大的机会,或者,可能来自第三个因素——管理层质量?
38 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 investment budgets or greater opportunities, or, maybe from a third factor, the quality of management?
麦考马克:我们以埃克森为例。这家公司通过股息和回购向股东分配了大量资本。去年秋天,公司宣布减少资本开支时,市场反应消极。但自从沃伦·巴菲特这样的投资者大举买入该公司股份后,股价不仅收复失地,还进一步上涨。我认为,正如保罗所言,投资者将企业投资和分红决策都视为衡量管理层质量的重要指标。正如迈克尔之前所说,这完全取决于具体情况。
McCormack: Well, take the case of Exxon, which distributes a lot of capital through dividends and buybacks. When the company announced a reduction in its capex last fall, the market reacted negatively. But since investors like Warren Buffett have taken a big stake in the company, the price has regained its ground and more. And I think, as Paul suggests, that investors look at both corporate investment and payout decisions as important indicators of management quality. As Michael suggested earlier, it just depends on the situation.
私募股权简析
奥斯菲尔德:那么,为了从另一个角度审视这个问题,我们来看一下私募股权的情况。其核心理念是:高杠杆可以通过迫使管理层将多余资本释放出去、同时提升企业经营效率来创造价值。而且,当董事会与股东合二为一时,做出更冒险的增长型投资会更容易——尽管高杠杆也可能让你对商业论证薄弱的投资项目望而却步。
A Brief Look at Private Equity Ostfeld: Well, to provide another vantage point to look at this, let’s consider the case of private equity. There the idea is that high leverage can add value by forc-ing management to pay out excess capital while also improving the operating efficiency of the business. And it’s easier to make riskier investments for growth when the board and shareholder are one and the same—though the high leverage could discourage you from doing investments with a weak business case.
周:但是,斯科特,这类交易中的股权成本也确实相当高,你不觉得吗——比上市公司的情况更高,那些上市公司拥有多元化的股东基础,杠杆比率又低?
Chew: But, Scott, the equity in such transactions is also really expensive, don’t you think—more expensive than in the case of public companies, with their diversified shareholder base and low leverage ratios?
奥斯特菲尔德:我同意,在私募股权交易中,股权成本确实非常高。
Ostfeld: I agree that the cost of equity is very high in private equity deals.
周:此外,除了可能错过增长杠杆比率带来的极高下行风险外,我认为一个重要的原因通常是股权成本太高,而大多数公司都面临这种情况。
Chew: And, in addition to the very high the possible downside of missed growth leverage ratios, I think one important opportunities is typically too high for reason the cost of equity is so high is most of them.
股息如何创造价值?如果你没有太多有利可图的增长机会,却持有过多……
that, if you don’t have many profitable growth opportunities and you have too How Do Dividends Add Value?
资产负债表上权益过多,周:但我想简要回到公司支出如何能增加价值的问题上——也就是说,它们如何实际提升组织的预期经营价值。投资者知道,你很可能把那些资本浪费在糟糕的投资上。这就是为什么,对于那种低增长、现金流稳定的企业来说,
much equity on your balance sheet, Chew: But I’d like to come back briefly investors know that there’s a good chance to this question of how corporate pay-that you’re going to waste that capital on outs can add value—that is, how they bad investments. And that’s why, for the actually increase the expected operating kinds of low-growth, stable cash flow values of organizations.
提供符合 PE 投资偏好的公司,我认为股息产生更高股东回报的原因有两个,且它们截然不同。首先,学术界称之为“信号”效应。意外的大幅股息增长是一个非常可靠的信号,表明公司正在产生大量现金,并且管理层预期公司将持续产生现金。股息增加价值的第二个主要方式更为微妙,但我认为也更为重要。股息反映了管理层向股东支付多余现金的承诺,这反过来使他们能够对留在业务中的资本获得更高回报。
如果你考察过去 130 年全球发达经济体的表现——我们有这方面的数据——那么平均股票回报最高的经济体,是其公司派发股息最多的经济体。而这正是上述两种因素共同作用的结果。是的,这些公司正在产生更多可被支付出去的现金,但那些市场中也存在压力,迫使管理者支付这些现金。在日本和意大利这样的国家,公司历来派息比例很低——而在日本,股票回购直到 1996 年都是非法的。我记得在回购合法化前不久,有一个团体……
producing companies that PE tends I think there are two very differ-to invest in, debt is generally a much ent reasons why dividends produce cheaper source of capital than equity. higher returns for shareholders. First Another reason debt is cheaper for PE is what academics call the “signaling” transactions is that PE firms are really effect. Unexpectedly large increases in good at managing leveraged capital dividends are a pretty reliable sign that structures; in fact I would say that man- companies are producing a lot of cash, aging high leverage is one of the key core and that management expects the com-competencies of private equity. If one of pany to continue generating cash. The their portfolio companies gets into finan- second main way that dividends add cial trouble and needs more equity, the value is more subtle but also, I would PE firms will often put more into their argue, more important. Dividends reflect own deals. managers’ commitment to pay out excess cash to shareholders, which in return Milano: I too am a big fan of the private allows them to earn higher returns on equity model, and I agree that it has been the capital left in the business. a tremendous success. There have been If you look at the performance of some spectacular disasters, but on aver- the world’s developed economies for the age it’s been wildly successful. past 130 years for which we have the But I don’t think the high leverage data, the highest average stock returns model works well for public companies. have been produced by the economies If you look at public companies and whose companies pay out the most in separate them by industry, in all but dividends. And it’s because of both of a handful of industries the companies those two factors. Yes, they’re generat-with above average leverage ratios have ing more cash that can be paid out, but lower TSRs. And so, leverage works well there are also forces in those markets that in a private company situation probably are pressuring managers to pay out the because of the huge ownership incentives cash. In countries like Japan and Italy, that the managers get. High leverage in companies have historically paid out public companies does not work so well. very low percentages of earnings—and in Japan, stock buybacks were illegal Chew: I agree. Most public companies until 1996. Shortly before the legaliza-cannot manage leverage effectively. And tion of buybacks, I remember a group
《应用公司金融期刊》第 26 卷第 4 期提到,日本政策制定者曾来到我们在纽约的斯腾·斯图尔特办公室,讨论回购事宜。而那次讨论让我深刻体会到,回购这件事有多么“不自然”。
Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 of Japanese policy makers coming to our Stern Stewart office in New York to discuss buybacks. And those discussions really impressed on me how “unnatural”
对于企业管理者而言,将资本返还给投资者——无论是通过股息还是回购的形式——是一件极其反常的事情。毕竟,你是在把一项由管理层掌控的资产,主动付给一群完全不认识的陌生人。
it is for a corporate manager to want to return capital to investors, whether in the form of dividends or buybacks. After all, you’re taking an asset that is now under the control of management and you’re volunteering to pay it out to complete strangers.
但这与西方市场资本主义的基本原则是一致的——资本属于投资者。按照这种观点,每一美元的分红在某种意义上都是管理层对效率的承诺。
But that’s consistent with the essential principle of Western market capitalism— that capital belongs to the investor. And in that view, any dollar that gets paid out is really in some sense a sign of management’s commitment to efficiency.
经理们知道他们为股东工作,所以如果没有绝佳的投资机会,就会把钱分给股东。
Managers know they work for the shareholders, so they pay it out if they don’t have a great investment opportunity.
麦考马克:当今最清晰的体现这一原则的案例,莫过于能源主责任有限合伙企业(MLPs)。这类企业属于转嫁实体,无需缴纳公司所得税。为了维持免税地位,MLP 必须将至少 90% 的收益分配给投资者。那么,它们的增长资本从哪里来?答案是,大多数 MLP 属于低增长、稳态型企业,本身并不需要太多资本。但有一小部分“成长型 MLP”在稳步增加——它们将 90% 的收益分配出去,然后在同一年内,又发行股权融资约等于这些分配金额的资本,而买入这些股权的,往往就是同一批投资者。
McC ormack: Perhaps the clearest example of this principle at work today is the case of energy master limited partnerships, which are pass-through organizations that pay no corporate income taxes. To maintain their tax-free status, MLPs have to pay out at least 90% of their earnings. So where do they get the capital for growth? The answer is that most MLPs have been low-growth, steady-state enterprises that don’t require much capital. But there is a small but steadily increasing group of “growth MLPs” that pay out 90% of their earnings and then, in the same year, turn around and issue equity for roughly the same amount of the distribution—and to many of the same investors.
这与美国公用事业公司的运营方式非常相似——它们将利润的很大一部分作为股息发放出去,然后每隔一段时间就进行大规模的二次股权融资。
This is a lot like how U.S. public util-ities operate, paying out large fractions of earnings and then coming out with large secondary equity offerings every
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前几年。我非常清楚地看到,美国公司里市值有好几万亿美元,我很难相信,一家经营良好的公司如果不派发股息,就找不到愿意买它股票的人。还记得唐和我以前的上司乔尔·斯特恩说过,这种做法“毫无意义”。在乔尔看来,公司永远不应该派发股息,因为你一只手把钱给出去,另一只手又把钱拿回来,整个过程里唯一受益的只有那些承销股票发行的银行家。
布里斯科:那意味着要拒绝我们的一部分股东,我不确定我们能心安理得地接受这个想法。
couple years. And I can very clearly U.S. companies, there’s a couple trillion remember Don’s and my old boss, Joel of market cap out there, and I find it Stern, saying that this practice makes hard to believe that a well-run company “no sense at all.” In Joel’s view, compa- won’t find people who will want to buy nies should never pay dividends because its stock if it doesn’t pay a dividend. you’re just putting it out with one hand and taking it back in with the other, and Briscoe: Well, that would mean turning the only parties benefiting from the pro- away a certain set of our shareholders, cess are the bankers that underwrite the and I’m not sure that we can get com-equity issues. fortable with the idea of doing that.
嗯,在我看来,约尔·斯特恩那个难题的答案就是当今克拉伦斯式公司的成功:我们是标普 100 指数中不支付股息的八家公司之一。我们不支付股息,是因为还没有达到我们想要的业务多元化水平。我同意支付股息可以通过把多余的现金从资产负债表上拿掉来增加价值。长期堆积在资产负债表上的多余现金,往往会被用于低收益的投资,从而侵蚀价值。但我认为管理层应该有自律,不去浪费现金流。支付股息的公司,也一样会做出糟糕的投资决策。
Well, to me the answer to Joel Stern’s conundrum is the success of today’s Clancy: We are one of the eight compa-growth MLPs. The MLP practice of nies in the S&P 100 that are not paying annual distributions and roughly com- dividends. We haven’t paid a dividend parable equity issues is essentially a because we haven’t reached the level of governance mechanism—it’s one that product diversification that we’d like. says that if you make a dollar and agree I agree that paying a dividend can add to pay it out in dividends, then you value by getting excess cash off the bal-will get it back the following year. And ance sheet. Permanent excess cash on this mechanism has proven to be very a company’s balance sheet is generally productive—investors have shown them- invested at low yields, thereby eroding selves willing to assign very high values value. But I think management should to these MLPs because they know they have the discipline not to waste cash have complete control of those dollars. flow. Dividend-paying companies can make bad investment decisions, too.
Briscoe:MLP 模式之所以有效,是因为它体现了对承诺的表达。同时也让管理层高度聚焦于最大化现金流。Hilal:保罗,我想补充你的观点。多年前,投资者会将固定派息视为一种约束机制,用来防止管理层偏离正轨。但近几十年来,像 JANA 和 Pershing 这样的积极股东已经帮助管理层将注意力集中在股东回报上。随着这些积极股东施加的影响力越来越大,对依赖固定派息这种约束机制的需求就减少了。我赞同你和迈克尔的观点,即股息会给公司带来税负和交易成本。但一个重要的现实是,如果一家公司本来有能力支付股息却选择不这么做,那么会有一部分股东不会投资这家公司。
Briscoe: The MLP form works because it’s an expression of commitment. It also Hilal: Paul, I want to expand on your gets management laser-focused on maxi- point. Years ago, investors would look mizing cash flow. to regular dividends as a disciplinary And I agree with both you and mechanism for management teams that Michael that dividends impose taxes and might run off the rails. But, in the recent transaction costs on companies. But one decades, engaged shareholders like JANA important practical reality is, if you’re a and Pershing have helped management company that could pay dividends and stay focused on shareholder returns. As has chosen not to do so, there is a sub- these engaged shareholders exert greater set of shareholders that will not invest in influence, there is less need to rely on the
你。所以,派发股息确实能打开一个常规股息来维持纪律,吸引一批原本不会考虑你的投资者。芒格:你是否曾向某家公司建议过削减他们的股息,并将更多资本重新投资到业务中去?莫布森:嗯,标普 500 指数的市值大概在 1.7 万亿或 1.8 万亿美元左右。
you. So, paying a dividend does open up regular dividend to maintain discipline. a pool of investors that otherwise would not consider you. Chew: Have you ever suggested to a company that they cut their dividend Mauboussin: Well, the market capitaliza- and reinvest more of their capital in the tion of the S&P 500 is around $17 or 18 business?
万亿美元。如果把其他所有的都算进来……
trillion. And if you add in all the other
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希拉尔:是的。而且我认为,如果你拥有一支优秀的管理团队——或至少是对股东反应积极的团队——“市场先生”这一角色就会被极大削弱,因为你投资的公司本身管理稳健,不会频繁受到市场情绪的剧烈冲击。
40 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 Hilal: Yes. And I think that if you have a good management team—or one that is at least responsive to shareholders’
既然没有这些担忧,那你就不需要用固定分红来约束管理层。作为投资者,我更希望公司不分固定股息,而是依靠机会性回购和特别股息。
concerns—then I don’t think you need to have a regular dividend to constrain them. As an investor, I’d much prefer that companies pay no regular dividends, but rely instead on opportunistic share repurchases and special dividends
Chew:您是否认为这些公司因为坚持派发股息而错失了投资机会?
Chew: Do you feel that these companies are missing investment opportunities because they insist on paying the dividend?
希拉尔:是的,这是一个担忧。或者,他们也可能错失回购机会。如果一家公司派发高额股息,而它的股票恰好在那个时候异常低估,他们就无法像原本那样大量回购,因为必须为这笔股息提供资金。或者,他们可能错过一个重大的收购机会。
Hilal: Yes, that’s one concern. Or they could be missing share repurchase opportunities. If a company has a big dividend and their stock happens to be unusually undervalued at that moment, they can’t buy back as much as they would otherwise because they have to fund this dividend. Or they may miss a big acquisition opportunity.
关于股息,另一个重要考虑因素在于,许多机构资金经理同时管理着境内外财富。由于支付给境外股东的股息要缴纳预扣税,境外有限合伙人每得到一美元股息,实际拿到的就比境内股东少。所以,这也是削减股息的一个理由。
Another important consideration with dividends arises from the fact that a lot of these institutional money managers manage wealth offshore as well as onshore. And because dividends paid to offshore shareholders are subject to with-holding tax, offshore LPs end up getting less of every dividend dollar than domes-tic shareholders. So that’s another reason to cut back on dividends.
克兰西:在实践中,定期股息和特别股息并非互斥关系;公司完全可以两者并行。
Clancy: In practice, regular and special dividends aren’t mutually exclusive; companies could do both.
奥斯特菲尔德:我想站在这个观点的另一面来讨论股息的作用。我完全同意保罗·希拉尔的说法——如果你拥有一家优秀的资本配置者,
Ostfeld: I want to take the other side of this argument about the role of dividends. I agree completely with Paul Hilal’s statement that if you have a great capital
如今许多公司设定的投资门槛比危机前更高——它们更担心“执行”问题,而不是为未来投资。这固然很好,但一旦走到极端,最终只会剩下寥寥几个真正优质的项目,而公司则不断积攒现金,却不知该如何处置。过去几年我一直在主张,许多公司可以通过增加投资来提升自身价值,即便这意味着降低资本回报率。
Many companies today have higher hurdle rates now than they did before the crisis—and they worry more about “execution” than about investing in their future. That’s all great but when you take that to an extreme, you end up with just a few really good projects and you just keep accumulating cash you don’t know what to do with. I have been arguing for a couple years now that many companies could increase their values by investing more, even if that means lowering their returns on capital.
Greg Milano
Greg Milano
如果你是一家公司顶层的资本配置者,那么你就不需要用股息支付这种约束来帮助他们避免负净现值的投资。在这种情况下,我同意,伺机而动的资本配置方法才是正确的做法。让世上的沃伦·巴菲特们继续持有他们的资本,并自行决定如何使用。 但有很多公司不适合这种模式,很多公司从高杠杆或定期以股息形式派发资本的纪律中受益。如果我说公司顶层那个资本配置者是错的,那么像 Pershing 和 Jana 这样的对冲基金的商业模式就不会产生高回报,也不会吸引那么多资金。如果许多公司管理层没有在资本配置上做得很糟糕,Pershing 和 JANA 早就应该把所有资本返还给我们的投资者了。 所以,定期将现金从管理层手中拿出来,放到股东手中,确实有实实在在的好处。一旦股东拿到了现金,他们就可以将其重新投资到他们认为前景更好的经济领域。就像 Don 和 John 的例子所示的那样。对于那些能源 MLP(业主有限合伙制)来说,我认为投资者非常看重这种选择权——即收到现金并自行做出再投资决策的权利。 为了支持我的论点,我们手头有你们提供的各种数据,表明总体而言,回购和收购的定价都过高——而且,总体而言,制药领域的研发并未产生其资本成本。鉴于这些发现,我认为股息是一种有效的机制,通过派发多余现金,一般都能保护股东的利益——尽管并非总是如此。 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance • Volume 26 Number 4 Fall 2014 41
allocator sitting at the top of a company, was wrong, the business model of hedge of the energy MLPs, I think that inves- then you don’t need the constraint of funds like Pershing and Jana would not tors place a high value on that option to dividend payments to help make them have produced the high returns and receive the cash and make the reinvest- avoid negative-NPV investments. In that attracted as much capital as it has. If ment decisions themselves. case, I agree that an opportunistic capital many corporate managements were not In support of my argument, we have allocation approach is the right way to do doing a bad job of allocating capital, Per- all kinds of data from you guys saying it. Let the Warren Buffetts of the world shing and JANA would be returning all that buybacks and acquisitions in general continue to hold on to their capital and our capital to our investors. are done at prices that are too high—and use it at their discretion. So there are real benefits to taking that, in general, R&D in the pharma- But there are a lot of companies out that cash on a regular basis out of the ceutical space has not generated its cost there where this model won’t work, a hands of management and putting it into of capital. Given these kinds of find- lot of companies that benefit from the the hands of shareholders. Once they ings, I think dividends are an effective discipline of either high leverage, or pay- have it, they can reinvest it in the econ- mechanism that generally works to pro- ing out capital on a regular basis in the omy anywhere they feel the prospects are tect shareholders’ interests—though not form of dividends. If what I was saying better. And like Don and John’s example always—by paying out excess cash. Journal of Applied Corporate Finance • Volume 26 Number 4 Fall 2014 41
MLP 每年分派股息并大致等额发行新股的做法,本质上是一种治理机制——它的逻辑是:你赚了 1 美元并同意将其作为股息支付出去,那么下一年你又能把这 1 美元拿回来。
The MLP practice of annual distributions and roughly comparable equity issues is essentially a governance mechanism—it’s one that says that if you make a dollar and agree to pay it out in dividends, then you will get it back the following year.
这一机制已被证明非常有效——投资者表现出愿意为这些业主有限合伙制企业(MLP)赋予极高估值的倾向,因为他们知道自己对这些资金拥有完全控制权。
And this mechanism has proven to be very productive—investors have shown themselves willing to assign very high values to these MLPs because they know they have complete control of over those dollars.
John McCormack
John McCormack
| Milano: 但我看到许多公司试图做的事情——尤其是那些回报率极高的行业——是积累现金,然后偶尔大笔派发,而不是持续地资本配置。| 我理解保罗提到的离岸投资者面临的税务问题,但我同样认为特别股息是一种被严重低估的工具。| 但正因为特别股息没有类似的调整机制,那些大量发放股票期权的公司,至少有一个理由来避免发放特别股息。|
Milano: But what I see many companies I understand the tax issue for offshore of the spun-off division. But because try to do—especially in businesses that investors that Paul mentioned, I also there is no such adjustment for special have very high returns—is to accumu- think that special dividends are a woefully dividends, companies that award a lot of late cash and then occasionally distribute underutilized tool. For companies with stock options have at least one motive for it in large chunks instead of committing ongoing uncertainty about their invest- avoiding special dividends.
奥斯菲尔德:即使他们做了调整,也更倾向于用现金回购股票,因为这能提升每股收益——而这通常正是他们薪酬的主要驱动因素。对于想要保持融资灵活性的投资机会而言,他们往往以此为由辩称,固定股息会消耗掉 40-60% 的现金流,进而限制他们日后抓住那些能赚取三到四倍资本成本的好机会。而通过不时发放特别股息,往往能获得一种更平衡的方式。
希拉勒:特别股息不那么常见还有另一个原因。员工……
to an ongoing dividend. They usually jus- ment opportunities that want to maintain tify this practice by saying that a regular their financing flexibility, you can often Ostfeld: And even if they have the adjust-dividend would chew up 40-60% of their get a more balanced approach by paying ment, they are more likely to use the cash cash flow, which in turn could limit their special dividends from time to time. to buy back stock since they get a boost in ability to seize good opportunities later their EPS, which is typically what drives on that might earn three or four times Hilal: There is another reason that special their compensation in the first place. the cost of capital. And because these dividends are less common. Employee
| 公司几乎完全通过回购方式分配大额现金 | 股票期权计划会针对某些事件调整行权价格,而对其他事件则不会调整 | 布里斯科:这就是为什么纯粹以每股收益驱动薪酬会存在问题的原因 |
| 这就造成了我们一直在讨论的市场时机选择和财富转移问题 | 例如,如果一家公司剥离某个部门,期权的行权价格会按比例下调,以反映剥离的价值 | 我最不愿意通过回购来拉高每股收益 |
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companies distribute the large chunks stock option packages adjust the strike Briscoe: Which is why there’s a problem of cash almost exclusively through buy- prices for some events but not others. For with having compensation driven purely backs, the companies create these market example, if a company spins off a divi- off of EPS. The last reason I would want timing and wealth transfer problems that sion, the strike price of the options will to do a share buyback is because it’s we have been talking about. Although be reduced pro-rata to reflect the value going to increase my EPS. 42 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance • Volume 26 Number 4 Fall 2014
市场对“战略”的反应。
莫布森:企业金融中一个未得到足够关注的话题是资产剥离。关于这一主题的少量研究表明,资产剥离为卖方创造了大量价值。为什么通过收购创造价值如此困难?我认为这在很大程度上源于一个现实:收购是一个竞争性出售过程;外部人士都能评估现金流,而价格往往被哄抬至净现值中性甚至净现值为负的水平。并购从整体来看确实创造价值,只是价值如何在卖方与买方之间分配的问题。
一直以来,管理层无法基于现金流来证明某项投资的合理性时,就会用“战略”来辩护——他们会用市场份额预期增长或进入新市场作为理由。这些业务或许有一些非常好的特质,但最终必须基于现金流和现金回报来证明其合理性。
米拉诺:这正是我发表在《CFO》杂志上那篇文章的开场白!每当有人说“你不能用金融手段来评估这个项目,因为它是战略性的”,我就特别反感。我的回应是:除非这个项目有相当高的概率最终能变成金融层面的成功,否则它很可能根本就不具有什么战略意义。
The Market Reaction to “strategic.” What this generally means is Divestitures that management can’t justify the invest-Mauboussin: One subject in corporate ment on the basis of the cash flows, so finance that doesn’t receive enough atten- they will defend it on the basis of an tion is divestitures. What little research expected increase in market share or on there is on the topic shows that divesti- access to new markets. These businesses tures create a lot of value for sellers. may have some very good attributes, but Why is it so hard to create value they ultimately have to be justified on the through acquisitions? I think a lot of basis of cash flows and cash returns. that has to do with the reality that it’s a competitive sale process; everyone on the Milano: That’s the opening line of the outside can evaluate the cash flow and article I published in CFO! It really both-the price tends to get bid up to the NPV ers me when people say, “You can’t use neutral or even NPV negative point. finance to evaluate this project because M&A creates value in the aggregate; it’s it’s strategic.” My response to that is that just how it’s parsed between the seller unless there’s a pretty good chance that it and the buyer. will someday become financial, then it’s probably not very strategic.
米兰诺:在很多情况下,超过 100% 的收益都落入了卖方手中。布里斯科:你总应该能为你要执行的策略提供数字依据。莫布辛:没错,这就是为什么我认为资产剥离这么有趣。你需要仔细权衡这些情况下的风险,做好估值。
Milano: And in a lot of cases, more than 100% of the benefits went to the seller. Briscoe: You should always be able to provide numbers for the strategy that Mauboussin: Right, and that’s why I you’re trying to execute. And you have to think divestitures are so interesting. In do a careful job of weighting the risks to those cases, sellers invite others to take a do a good valuation.
看看这些信息,并全部提供出来。由于出售流程的存在,潜在积极投资者作为企业管理的合作伙伴,很有可能会出现“赢家诅咒”的局面——有人会报出与其价值正好相等或更高的价格。米兰:斯科特,你有没有把企业收购视为一种投资的催化剂,或者成为积极投资者的理由?
look at them and provide all the information. And because of the selling process, Active Investors as Potential there is a good chance it will turn out to Partners for Corporate be a winner’s curse situation in which Management someone will bid exactly what it’s worth Milano: Scott, do you ever see corporate or more. acquisitions as a catalyst for an investment, or a reason to become active?
布里斯科:这也是为什么公司和管理团队应该认真审视他们的所有资产和业务线,然后问自己:我们是这些资产的最高价值使用者吗?我们真的需要从事这项业务吗?这些资产对于别人是否比对我们更有价值?
奥斯菲尔德:并购会吸引我们的注意,无论是收购方还是目标公司。在目标公司这边,我们至少阻止了四笔交易,因为我们觉得目标公司被低估了,没有得到公平的价格,或者因为我们觉得收购方的并购策略不合理。我们也阻止过收购方,不过那些情况往往相当复杂。最近的一个案例涉及一项变革性的跨界交易。
Briscoe: And that’s another reason companies and management teams should Ostfeld: Acquisitions get our attention take a hard look at all their assets and both on the acquirer side and the target lines of business and then ask themselves: side. On the target side, we have blocked Are we the highest-valued user of these at least four deals because we thought the assets? Do we need to be in this business? target was undervalued and was not get-Is this something more valuable to some- ting a fair price, or because we thought one else than it is to us? the merger strategy of the acquirer And I think the same thought process didn’t make sense. We have also blocked should also apply to capital expenditures. acquirers, although those situations have Managers often justify low-return capi- tended to be pretty complicated. A recent tal projects on the grounds that they are case involved a transformative, cross-
《应用公司金融杂志》第 26 卷第 4 期 一家此前只做过一笔大交易——而且那笔交易最终被全额冲销——的公司,完成了一桩涉及现金和股票混合支付的并购案。
Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 border M&A deal that involved a mix of cash and stock by a company that had done only one big deal before—and that deal had resulted in a complete write-off.
以我的经验,你通常可以很快从外部判断一笔交易是否成功概率很高。
In my experience, you can usually tell fairly quickly from the outside whether a deal has a high likelihood of success or
不过。在我们阻止收购方完成的那些交易中,那些交易的成功,对于所有未参与交易的人来说,都显得极为可疑。
not. The deals where we’ve blocked the acquirer were ones where success looked highly questionable to anybody not involved in the deal.
Chew:斯科特,你发现有很多标的企业愿意接受低于市场价的价格吗?
Chew: Scott, do you find a lot of targets willing to accept below market prices?
奥斯菲尔德:这类情况几乎总是源于管理层的激励机制。比如,我们见过几个案例,管理层打算把他们的股票滚入私募交易中的股权;在这些案例里,他们要么看到了成为 CEO 的机会,要么是能拿到一大笔控制权变更补偿金然后可能退休——或者是他们只是厌倦了应付公众股东。他们可能会想,有一个股东比有一千个股东更好。
Ostfeld: Those situations almost always arise from managers’ incentives. For example, we have seen a few cases where managers are going to roll their stock into equity in a private deal; and in those cases, they either see the opportunity to be the CEO or to get a big change-ofcontrol payment and maybe retire—or maybe they’ve just gotten tired of dealing with public shareholders. They may reason that having one shareholder is better than having 1000.
Chew:哈佛大学的卢西恩·贝布楚克有一项新研究,引起了广泛关注,研究显示平均对冲基金的持股期限长于平均共同基金。在座的对冲基金代表们觉得这说法对吗?
Chew: Lucian Bebchuk at Harvard has a new study that has gotten a lot of attention that shows that the average hedge fund has a longer holding period than the average mutual fund. Does that sound right to the hedge fund representatives here?
希拉尔:我们在珀欣的激进投资平均持有期大约为四年,这比普通被动型机构持有股票的时间要长得多。
Hilal: Our average hold at Pershing for our activist investments is about four years, which is much longer than a normal passive institution will hold a stock.
当我们进行投资时,我们视自己为公司的长期合伙人。我们的思考和行动方式,就好像我们拥有该公司的一部分一样。
When we make an investment, we consider ourselves long-term partners with the company. We think and act as if we
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我们完全拥有这家公司,并且我们的计划就像永远不会退出这项业务一样。通过这样做,我们降低了资本成本,从而提高了公司的价值——同样,这是在有意降低盈利增长的前提下实现的。
own the whole thing, and we plan as if out of the business, we are reducing our we’re going to own it forever. We con- cost of capital and so increasing the value sider each activist investment as part of of the firm—again, while consciously a growing legacy for creating shareholder reducing earnings growth.
价值。在詹姆斯·戈尔曼大约五年前接手之前,摩根士丹利的首要关注点是:你拿到董事会席位了吗?当时摩根士丹利与高盛的盈利增长不相上下。但如今,经过希拉勒所说:有时会的。这完全取决于五年间将业务从固定收益和其他交易业务中转移出来的调整,摩根士丹利正在获得具体情况。有时候,我们确实会试图让公司增加资本投资。
value. Before James Gorman took the reins about five years ago, the main focus of Chew: Do you get board seats? Morgan Stanley was matching Gold-man’s earnings growth. But today, after Hilal: Sometimes. It just depends on the five years of shifting the business away situation. And in some cases, we do try from fixed income and other trading to get companies to invest more capi- businesses, Morgan Stanley is getting
其中一个例子是一家科技公司,尽管盈利增长放缓,但因其在市场上享有较高市盈率的认可,从而获得了一个非常有趣的收购机会。
tal. One example was a tech firm with recognition from the street in the form a very interesting opportunity to buy a of a considerably higher P/E ratio despite company whose growth was expected to the slowdown in earnings growth.
未来几年可能会持平甚至负增长。尽管有很多
莫布森:关于主动成本协同效应,这家公司可以以非常诱人的价格被收购,那位科技公司 CEO 担心这笔收购会拖累他的收入增长。他试图向他的科技行业股东展示顶线增长,而另一家收入增长持平或负增长的公司会稀释他的收入增长。
我们试图让这位 CEO 理解,这笔交易会通过提高他的资本回报率来创造股东价值,他不必担心迎合那些关注收入增长的特定股东。但他对我们的论点没有回应。
麦科马克:保罗,你说的这种交易听起来类似于摩根士丹利的战略转变,体现在他们决定收购花旗的史密斯·巴尼经纪业务上。他们说:“我们过去是一家快速增长的业务,但现在已经不再是了。”
投资者时间视野的问题,我认为重要的是认识到,对于持有较大头寸的积极投资者来说,控制权和流动性之间存在权衡。当你运营一个多元化的投资组合,因此在一家上市公司中持有相当小的头寸时,你拥有高流动性,但基本没有控制权。作为企业部门的负责人,你拥有非常高的控制权,但没有流动性。私人股权比企业部门经理有更多的流动性——而积极投资者则介于上市公司和私人股权所有的公司之间。
因此,像你们这样的积极投资者要得到认真对待,就必须说:“我们投入了大量资本,我们将是重要的股东,我们将与你们合作一段时间。我们不会明天就走。”没有这样的理解,就很难施加被视为合法且建设性的控制。
be flat or possibly negative over the coming years. Although there were a lot of Mauboussin: On this question of active cost synergies and this company could be investors’ time horizon, I think it’s also bought at a very attractive price, the tech important to recognize that, for activist company CEO was afraid the acquisition investors who take pretty large positions, was going to create a drag on his revenue there is a trade-off between control and growth. He was trying to show top line liquidity. When you’re running a diver-growth for his tech industry sharehold- sified portfolio and hence have a fairly ers and the other company with flatter small position in a public company, you or negative revenue growth would have have high liquidity but basically no con-diluted his revenue growth. trol. As head of a corporate division, you We tried to get this CEO to under- have really high control but no liquid-stand that this deal would create ity. Private equity has somewhat more shareholder value by raising his returns liquidity than a manager of a corporate on capital, and that he didn’t have to division—and then activist investors are worry about pleasing the particular somewhere between public companies shareholders that were focused on rev- and firms owned by private equity. enue growth. But he wasn’t responsive to So, for activist investors like you our argument. guys to be taken seriously, you have to say “We’re ponying up a lot of capital, McCormack: Paul, the kind of deal you’re we will be significant owners, we will talking about sounds similar to the stra- be partners with you for a while. We’re tegic change in Morgan Stanley that was not going away tomorrow.” Without that reflected in their decision to buy Citi’s understanding, it’s hard to exert control Smith Barney brokerage. They said, “We that’s viewed by corporate management used to be a fast-growing business, but as legitimate and constructive.
现在我们正在做出一个决定:降低盈利增速,把大量风险从业务中剥离出去。奥斯特菲尔德:我们并不因为持股而施加控制或影响决策。
now we’re making a decision to reduce our earnings growth and take a lot of risk Ostfeld: We don’t exert control or influ-out of the business.” And by taking risk ence decision-making because of the
44 公司应用金融杂志 第 26 卷第 4 期 我们也对所持股份发挥影响。我们通过提出论点和议案来施加影响,这些论点和议案需获得大多数股东的认可。所以,我们必须提出那些在短期内以及长期内都更可能奏效的想法,因为并非所有股东的投资期限都一样。我们的制度天然就有制衡机制,防止短视行为。如果我们只是为了下个季度的收益就“掏空”公司,那么那些经常支持我们的大型机构投资者就会说:“这些人很快就会消失,并且会毁掉价值。我不想支持他们。”但实际情况并非如此。我们通常能获得这些投资者的支持,因为我们建立了一种声誉,即我们倡导明智的长期政策,从而赢得他们的支持。
44 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 ownership stakes we have. We exercise inf luence by offering arguments and proposals that are viewed favorably by a majority of the shareholders. And so we have to come up with ideas that are likely to work over the relatively near term as well as the long run because not every shareholder has the same time horizon. There’s a natural governance safeguard in our system against short-sightedness. If all we were doing was coming in and “gutting” companies for the next quarter’s gain, then the large institutional investors who often support us would say, “These guys will be gone in no time and will destroy value. I don’t want to support them.” But that’s not what happens. We typically gain the backing of these investors because we have built a reputation for getting their support for advocating sensible, long-term policies.
周(Chew):但是,斯科特,我相信你也清楚,你刚才说的那番话完全与人们对对冲基金和私募股权公司对其投资企业所施行为的主流看法背道而驰。根据你刚才告诉我们的操作方式——以及我片刻前提到的贝伯查克(Bebchuk)的研究发现——在我看来,那些感觉在市场上未受充分认可的公营公司管理层,理应主动找上门来。他们应当这样说:“我们希望董事会里有一位像沃伦·巴菲特这样的人。我们希望有一位长期持股者,成为我们在市场上的代理人。这样我们就不必试图去触及那些面目模糊的个体投资者。我们可以与一位代表市场的人对话,并与之展开这场讨论。”
Chew: But, Scott, as I’m sure you know, what you just said runs completely against the grain of the popular percep-tion of what hedge funds and private equities do to and for the companies they invest in. And based on what you’ve just told us about your MO—and on Bebchuk’s findings that I mentioned a minute ago—it seems to me that the managements of public companies who feel underappreciated by the market should be seeking you out. They should be saying, “We want somebody like Warren Buffett on our board. We want somebody who’s going to be a long-term holder who becomes our proxy for the market. This way we won’t have to try and reach all those faceless individuals out there. We can talk to somebody who represents the market and has this debate
持有你股票的投资者类型最终会影响你的业绩和价值。而你向市场传递的信息,又会影响选择购买你股票的投资者类型。如果你希望吸引更成熟、更长期的投资者,不如考虑停止发布盈利指引,转而谈论你的投资、融资以及内部治理政策。
The kinds of investors who hold your shares can end up affecting your performance and value. And what you tell the market can affect the kinds of investors who choose to buy your shares. If you want to attract more sophisticated and longer-term investors, think about ending earnings guidance and talk about your investing and financing and internal governance policies instead.
Don Chew
Don Chew
我们目前比过去更受欢迎。但我们仍要面对唐(Don)提到的那种对激进投资者的妖魔化。当然,现在还有一个由管理层防御专家组成的行业,他们想方设法把我们描绘成那种形象。
米拉诺(Milano):有没有出现过管理层团队主动邀请您介入的情况?
我们只是基于股东的最大利益提供建议,而建议的提出者必须长期在场,既能收获建议的成果,也要承担建议的后果。外部顾问要收取顾问费,投行要收取交易费。我们不从任何人那里收取费用。
about what we need to do in terms of our give them advice based on the best inter- So, we are now more welcome than investment policy.” ests of the shareholders and who will be in the past. But we still have to deal with around long enough to reap the benefits, the demonization of activist investors Milano: Have you ever had a manage- or suffer the consequences of the advice. that Don referred to. And, of course, ment team come to you and invite you An outside consultant will want a fee and there’s an industry of management in? a banker will want a transaction fee. We’re defense specialists who want to portray not getting a fee from anybody. We just us that way.
希拉勒:我们遇到过一些管理层,他们真心希望股东能赢。那些反应非常积极的首席财务官和首席执行官,往往能认识到…… 布里斯科:但如果我是首席财务官,我为什么要在意这些方式?我敢肯定这种情况在贾纳(Jana)以及其他顶尖、被视为有思想的维权投资者那里都发生过。布里斯科:到那个时候,顾问们就靠边站了。当这类投资者买入一家公司的股份时,我们几乎总是立即…… 换句话说,我不应该在乎股东是谁。如果他们持有哪怕中等规模的股份,我就应该与他们沟通。而且沟通……
Hilal: We’ve had management teams want the shareholders to win. And there that have reacted very positively to our are CFOs and CEOs that recognize that Briscoe: But if I’m a CFO, why should I approaches. And I’m sure this has hap- and actually welcome the conversation. treat any shareholders differently? In other pened to Jana and the other top shelf words, I shouldn’t care who the share-activists that are known as thoughtful. Briscoe: And, at that point, the consul- holder is. If they have even moderately When such investors buy a stake in a tants go away. significant holdings, I should be commu-company, we almost always immediately nicating with them. And communication
接到电话说,“过来吧;我们很乐意听听你的看法。” 在很多情况下,我们与公司有过非常坦诚且富有建设性的对话。事实上,他们往往把我们视为免费的咨询顾问。他们得到的分析来自一个利益攸关、与股东立场一致的人,这个人不会只告诉对方自己想说什么,还会提出问题并倾听。这应该是观点的真诚交流——并且应该发生在你与所有股东之间。他们会想了解你的战略和愿景以及你的前进方向。但我也想听取每个人的想法和观点,即便我不完全认同。 希拉尔:没错。咨询与投资截然不同。咨询师不必在完成研究或收购失败后还要收拾残局。咨询师不必处理那些极其分散精力、毁掉大量价值的整合工作。但我们作为所有者,必须面对这些事情。 《应用公司金融杂志》·第 26 卷·第 4 期·2014 年秋季·第 45 页
get a call saying, “Come on over; we’d Hilal: Right. Consulting is very differ- to me means not just telling them what love to hear what you have to say.” ent from investing. Consultants don’t I want to say, but also asking them ques- In many cases, we have had very open have to end up holding the pieces after tions and listening. It should be a genuine and constructive dialogues with the com- conducting the study or after the acqui- exchange of views—and it should be hap- panies. In fact, they tend to view us as sition that failed. Consultants don’t have pening with all of your shareholders. They free consultants. They’re getting a study to deal with the integration that was so will want to understand your strategy and from somebody who’s got an enormous distracting and destroyed a lot of value. vision and where you’re headed. But I want amount of skin in the game, who is But we as owners do have to deal with to hear everybody’s ideas and views, even if aligned with their shareholders, who will these things. I don’t agree with all of it. Journal of Applied Corporate Finance • Volume 26 Number 4 Fall 2014 45
休:约翰,你会那样说——以这种立场起步确实值得称道。但这改变不了一个事实:持有你股票的投资者类型,最终会影响你的业绩和公司价值;而你向市场传递的信息,也会影响选择购买你股票的投资者群体。我说的"值得交流的投资者"是什么意思?大约十年前,沃顿商学院一位名叫布赖恩·布希的会计学教授,研究过美国所有机构投资者,将他们分为三类:(1)"短线交易者",持有大量小额仓位
Chew: John, you may say that—and it’s So, my point here is that the kinds an admirable position to start out with. of investors who hold your shares can But that doesn’t change the reality that end up affecting your performance and probably only about 5-10% of your value. And what you tell the market can investors are worth talking to. What affect the kinds of investors who choose do I mean when I say that? About ten to buy your shares. If you want to attract years ago an accounting prof at Wharton more sophisticated and longer-term named Brian Bushee studied all U.S. investors, think about ending earnings institutional investors and classified guidance and talk about your investing them in one of three categories: (1) and financing and internal governance “transients,” which have lots of small policies instead.
仓位换手率极高,据称约占美国投资者的 60%;(2)“准指数型投资者”,持有大量小额仓位但持有期较长,约占总数的 30%;以及(3)“坚守型投资者”,即那些持有大额仓位且长期持有的人。布里斯科:我同意你的看法,只有第三类投资者——坚守型投资者——才会就真正重要的问题,如公司战略、财务和治理政策,进行有意义的对话。至于动量型投资者和指数型投资者,你可以尝试与他们接触,但他们不会回应。
positions with very high turnover and are said to account for about 60% of U.S. Briscoe: I agree with you, in the sense investors; (2) “quasi-indexers,” which that it’s only the third category of have lots of small positions but long investors—the dedicated holders— holding periods and represent about 30% that will engage in a meaningful of the total; and (3) “dedicated holders,” dialogue about things that matter, people who take large positions and hold about corporate strategy and financial them for a long time. and governance policies. As for the And, John, if I were making a momentum types and the indexers, you recommendation to your investor can try to reach out to them, but they do relations group, I would suggest that not respond.
他们将大部分时间用于识别并接触第三类人,即“总结思考:重返校园”中提到的群体。我也认为希拉尔指出:谈到忠实持股者,哥伦比亚商学院有一个价值投资项目——整个课程体系都围绕股东价值构建。但哈佛没有,斯坦福、凯洛格商学院以及其他商学院也没有。而且我认为,金融学研究会因更多地揭示价值投资者如何开展工作、以及他们实际创造何种回报而受益。布希的研究中一个有趣发现是:与拥有大量动量型投资者的公司相比,忠实持股者比例过高的公司股价波动性更低。拥有更多忠实持股者的公司也倾向于提供更多历史信息,而非前瞻性信息。
they spend most of their time trying to identify and make contact with this Closing Thoughts: Back to School third group of people. I would also argue Hilal: Speaking of dedicated holders, that you might be able to increase the Columbia Business School has a value value of your shares just by getting them investing program—and it’s an entire to buy and hold your shares. One of the curriculum built around thinking about interesting findings of Bushee’s study is shareholder value. But Harvard does that companies with a disproportionate not, nor do Stanford, Kellogg, or any of share of dedicated holders have less the other schools. And I think the study volatility than companies with lots of of finance would benefit from producing momentum types. Companies with more insight into how value investors do dedicated holders also tend to provide their work, and the kinds of returns they more historical, but less forward-looking actually produce.
信息(比如季度盈利指引),所以公司可以通过选择和如何传达来影响股东构成。克朗西:我觉得很有趣的是,芝加哥大学的有效市场假说竟然存在了这么久。相比之下,哥伦比亚大学基因里似乎更根深蒂固地认为市场可能是无效的,对吧?如果你从根本上相信市场是无效的,
information (such as quarterly earnings guidance), so companies can influence Clancy: It’s interesting to me that the who holds their shares by how and University of Chicago’s efficient mar-what they choose to communicate. And ket hypothesis has lived on for such a perhaps the most interesting finding of long, long time. By contrast, what seems all: Such companies were significantly ingrained in the DNA at Columbia is less likely to cut their R&D budgets to that the market can be inefficient, right? meet a quarterly earnings target. If you fundamentally believe it’s inef-
46 应用公司金融杂志 第 26 卷第 4 期 如果你追求效率,那就去寻找低效之处。
46 Journal of Applied Corporate Finance Volume 26 Number 4 ficient, you look for the inefficiencies.
优秀公司里的资本配置者会寻找那些低效之处,并试图迅速利用它们获利。这一点在大多数商学院里是学不到的。
Great capital allocators at companies look for those inefficiencies and try to capital-ize on them very quickly. That doesn’t get taught in most business schools.
Chew:事实上,保罗,我认为两派关于市场有效性的看法都有道理。我们的金融市场竞争极为激烈,正如芝加哥学派所认为的那样,以至于 80% 的专业基金经理在大多数年份里依然跑输标普 500 指数。但与此同时,我也认为哥伦比亚大学的课程在“存在这样一批专注的长期持有者”这一点上是正确的——他们的方法以及其中许多人持续跑赢市场的能力也是正确的。正如我在芝加哥大学的朋友雷·鲍尔喜欢解释的那样:“如果你像我一样看待这个理论——即在高度竞争的市场中,提供有价值信息所获得的回报或收益——那么这种超额收益就完全符合市场有效性。”而且,正如保罗·克兰西刚刚暗示的,哥伦比亚大学这个项目的核心人物——沃伦·巴菲特们和现代的格雷厄姆与多德们——确实似乎正在向市场提供有价值的信息,并因此获得了丰厚的回报。
Chew: In fact, Paul, I think both schools are right about market efficiency. Our financial markets are intensely competitive, as the Chicago School suggests, so much so that 80% of professional fund managers still seem to underperform the S&P 500 in most years. But at the same time, I think the program at Columbia is right about the existence of these dedicated holders—and right about their methods, and the ability of many of them to outperform the markets consistently. As my friend Ray Ball at the University of Chicago likes to explain this, “This kind of outperformance is completely consistent with market efficiency if you view the theory the way I do—that is, as the returns or payoff for providing valuable information in a highly competitive market.” And as Paul Clancy was just suggesting, the people at the core of this Columbia program— the Warren Buffetts and the modern-day Grahams and Dodds—do appear to be providing valuable information to the market—and getting handsomely rewarded for it.
莫布森:我是哥伦比亚商学院海尔布伦格雷厄姆-多德投资中心的成员,所以我很欢迎保罗和你的评论。
Mauboussin: I’m part of the Heilbrunn Center for Graham and Dodd Investing at Columbia Business School, so I welcome both Paul’s and your comments.
沃伦·巴菲特有句名言:“我之所以成为更好的投资者,是因为我是商人;而我之所以成为更好的商人,是因为我是投资者。”我认为这正是这一切的关键。那些非常成功的首席执行官们——
Warren Buffett has this great line: “I am a better investor because I am a businessman and a better businessman because I am an investor.” And I think that is the key to all this. The very successful CEOs
桑代克那本书里,格雷格一开始提到的高管们,是从投资者的视角看待世界的。他们每天都在思考内在价值与市场价值。这是一个动态的过程。他们不认为必须让成本持续增长,也不认为仅仅因为过去行得通,就非得继续做同样的事情。
米兰:最后,我想先对各位抽出时间讨论这个非常重要的话题表达感谢。我全程都乐在其中。资本配置选择正是企业运营的核心所在。那些把战略规划与企业管理的重心放在资本回报上的高管,如果仅仅把资本部署视为战略的副产品而非驱动力,可能就错失了塑造未来的机会——他们没有从那些破坏价值的活动中撤出资本,也没有为资本寻找更高价值的用途。正如我们的小组讨论已经非常清楚地表明的那样,完全有可能——事实上,这应当被视为高层管理者的一项首要职责——运用我们刚才讨论过的那些资本配置选项,来推动战略与价值创造,从而引领企业整体走向成功。
in Thorndike’s book that Greg men- of strategic planning, and corporate tioned at the outset thought about the m a n a g e me nt s w ho v ie w c a pit a l world as investors. They thought about deployment as a byproduct of, rather intrinsic and market values every day. than as a driver of, strategy may be It was a dynamic process. They didn’t missing an opportunity to shape their believe they had to grow costs at all or future by withdrawing capital from that they had to continue doing some- value-destroying activities and finding thing simply because that’s what had higher-valued uses for it. As our panel worked for them in the past. has I think made ver y clear, it is quite possible—and in fact it should Milano: Let me wrap this up by first be considered one of the primar y expressing my appreciation to each responsibilities of top executives—to of you for devoting your time to use the alternatives for deploying capital discuss this very important topic. I we’ve just discussed to propel strategy have thoroughly enjoyed it. Capital and value creation in ways that lead to deployment choices are at the very core overall corporate success.
《应用公司金融》杂志 • 第 26 卷 第 4 期 2014 年秋季刊 第 47 页
Journal of Applied Corporate Finance • Volume 26 Number 4 Fall 2014 47
顾问委员会社论
ADVISORY BOARD EDITORIAL
| 雅科夫·阿米胡德 | 罗伯特·埃克尔斯 | 戴维·拉克尔 | 查尔斯·史密森 | 主编 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 纽约大学 | 哈佛商学院 | 斯坦福大学 | 拉特联合公司 | 小唐纳德·H·周 |
| 玛丽·巴斯 | 卡尔·费伦巴赫 | 马丁·莱博维茨 | 乔尔·M·斯特恩 | 副主编 |
| 斯坦福大学 | 伯克希尔合伙公司 | 摩根士丹利 | 斯特恩价值管理公司 | 约翰·L·麦科马克 |
| 阿马尔·比德 | 肯尼思·弗伦奇 | 唐纳德·莱萨德 | G·贝内特·斯图尔特 | 设计与制作 |
| 塔夫茨大学 | 达特茅斯学院 | 麻省理工学院 | EVA 维度公司 | 玛丽·麦克布赖德 |
| 迈克尔·布拉德利 | 马丁·弗里德森 | 勒内·斯图尔茨 | ||
| 杜克大学 | 莱曼、利维安、弗里德森公司 | 罗伯特·默顿 | 俄亥俄州立大学 |
Yakov Amihud Robert Eccles David Larcker Charles Smithson Editor-in-Chief New York University Harvard Business School Stanford University Rutter Associates Donald H. Chew, Jr. Mary Barth Carl Ferenbach Martin Leibowitz Joel M. Stern Associate Editor Stanford University Berkshire Partners Morgan Stanley Stern Value Management John L. McCormack Amar Bhidé Kenneth French Donald Lessard G. Bennett Stewart Design and Production Tufts University Dartmouth College Massachusetts Institute of EVA Dimensions Mary McBride Technology Michael Bradley Martin Fridson René Stulz Duke University Lehmann, Livian, Fridson Robert Merton The Ohio State University
顾问有限责任公司 麻省理工学院 理查德·布雷利 技术学院 亚历克斯·特里安提斯 伦敦商学院 斯图尔特·L·吉兰 马里兰大学 佐治亚大学 斯图尔特·迈尔斯
Advisors LLC Massachusetts Institute of Richard Brealey Technology Alex Triantis London Business School Stuart L. Gillan University of Maryland University of Georgia Stewart Myers
| 迈克尔·布伦南 | 麻省理工学院 | 劳拉·丹德烈亚·泰森 |
| 加州大学洛杉矶分校 | 理查德·格雷科 | 加州大学伯克利分校 |
| 菲兰杰里资本合伙公司 | ||
| 罗伯特·布鲁纳 | 特雷弗·哈里斯 | 理查德·鲁巴克 |
| 弗吉尼亚大学 | 哥伦比亚大学 | 哈佛商学院 |
| 罗斯·沃茨 | ||
| 麻省理工学院 |
Michael Brennan Massachusetts Institute of Laura D’Andrea Tyson University of California, Richard Greco Technology University of California, Los Angeles Filangieri Capital Partners Berkeley Richard Ruback Robert Bruner Trevor Harris Harvard Business School Ross Watts University of Virginia Columbia University Massachusetts Institute
G. William Schwert of Technology Christopher Culp Glenn Hubbard University of Rochester University of Chicago Columbia University Jerold Zimmerman Alan Shapiro University of Rochester Howard Davies Michael Jensen University of Southern Institut d’Études Politiques Harvard University California de Paris Steven Kaplan Clifford Smith, Jr.
G. William Schwert of Technology Christopher Culp Glenn Hubbard University of Rochester University of Chicago Columbia University Jerold Zimmerman Alan Shapiro University of Rochester Howard Davies Michael Jensen University of Southern Institut d’Études Politiques Harvard University California de Paris Steven Kaplan Clifford Smith, Jr.
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